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europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Amnesia - 03-09-2009

Hi !

This last version is really amazing, exciting..I propose to present it a bit, and include it in a pack with some savestates. the designer scheduled 6 modes of difficulties for this scenario :

1 : SUCKLING
2 : BEGINNER
3 : NORMAL
4 : EXPERT
5 : VETERAN
6 : ELITE

These 2 savestates I propose here has been performed in EXPERT mode..Which is already stressing, because the allied replacement are multiplied by 2, and they start with 20% additional supply..:(

The savestates and the scenario :

http://www.sendspace.com/file/qcge0w

-Turn 40 :

War in Ethiopia and Spain have been won by the facist units. (that was very tight in Spain), the Wehrmacht is ready to blitz the Poland.

-Turn 65 :

Poland had been invaded succefully, Danemark and Norway as well, the Swedish is still neutral, because the activation of this country will motivate the USSR to activate their insane war machine production..and they still accept to provide the Kiruna and Gallivare supply for the nazi plans..
The wehrmacht is ready to strike the West, with a deployment very close to the real one and 3 months earlier ;)..

Here is a map of the turn 65 :

[Image: sanstitreoni.jpg]

I only propose these savestates for the people who are not patient to do a whole huge scenario like this one, but the best thing is still to start from the begining, in order to learn by yourself the structure of the axis armies..(they come progressively..)

Coming soon :

-Savestates for Barbarossa and Blau.


RE: europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Currahee - 03-10-2009

Thanks for introducing us to this great scenario....looking forward to the rest of the report!


RE: europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Amnesia - 03-12-2009

This scenario is so great !!! if you still have not tried it, GO FOR IT !! :hissy:

2 additional savestates ! I am particulary accurate when I set some savestates of reference, I try to be the closest possible with the real front conditions, I try to give you a stable situation with no particular deployment to let you the initiative to do what you want, and the most important, I try to keep 3 months in advance to the real calendar of the events :

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8s7f2d

-Turn 80 :

-Italy 6th army ready to attack Egypt.
-German 17th ,1st Pz + 2 slovac korp + Italia 2nd + part of Italia /2 ready to invade yougoslavia and greece.

*Advice for the libano syria pro-vichy units, make them escape in Turchia !! they CAN NOT resist against UK and Egypt units..

The movements of the UK 8th have been improved a lot in Libye/Egypt !! and the adding of the Malta's supply events make this part of the WWII passioning and stressing !! I remember that was useless and annoying to fight in North africa in the old versions, but now it is pretty cool !!

-Turn 115 :

GO FOR BARBAROSSA !!!!!

situation :

[Image: barbarossaready.jpg]

We are in Feb 41 but I STRONGLY suggest you to blitz them now !! then it is your problem if you decide to attack in June..

The front in Lybia is tight (please Rommel come NOW !!).
I have been forced to let around Calais 3 units of the 16th army, because of a bug I will explain*..And I also let 2 or 3 units of the 17th in Creta, because a group of the UK 8th don't want to let me the Island, they are insanely boring..

This scenario is cute, we are close to the perfection but there is still some problem I will mention here :

-Slovac korps come in the bad location: (94 ; 87) instead of (94 ; 97) I suppose.
-French south divisions invade North West of Italia around spring 1939.
-French divisions attack german territory in the begining of 1940.
(maybe I approached a bit too much and accidently excited them..)
-UK french korp attempt to come back against the atlantic wall around Calais, few months after the french surrender. (*need to let something there to prevent an intrusion.)
-WTF with the Maginot line ??
-Problem with the border between Finland and Norway.


RE: europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Currahee - 03-12-2009

That's a great deal of work you've done! And even the problems you mention are not so much bugs, as the AI having a mind of its own, and doing it's own thing, which is what it's supposed to do. Against a human, you would probably also be two or three months behind your timetable, more on the historal timetable. Can't wait to give this one a try! Is this version on Rugged Defense?


RE: europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Amnesia - 03-12-2009

I think so..I created an account and found it in their scenarios data base..If you don't want to waste your time to find it, I put the scenario in the first post of this thread..;)

Quote:Against a human, you would probably also be two or three months behind your timetable, more on the historal timetable

I am not so sure, don't forget that I play with a computer upgraded with a supply +20 feature..Currently they are at 50 instead of 30..But the designer scheduled a "human VS human" setting..I have not checked yet in the events list how this option work..
and more, the UK and greek units are untirable !! they come back again and again likes robots, I human player would be less insisting..That made me lose a lot of time..


RE: europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Amnesia - 03-13-2009

New little problem detected :

-Russian never attacked finland in 40..
-Nurmansk allied -3% when Gibraltar falls, there is a conflict with the events :

[Image: bugnurmansk.jpg]

-Gibraltar garison too weak ! there is 2 fortified units at [99 99], and I just walked toward them to evaporate the 2 units and capture Gibraltar, I had prepared lot of units for the attack, for nothing..:chin:..:conf:


RE: europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Amnesia - 03-16-2009

The game is too hard in EXPERT mode..After 2 months against russian army, I am forced to stop my progression and I am not even at the position of October 41..They are as strong as they are supposed to be at the end of 42..


RE: europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Amnesia - 03-16-2009

I hope 2 things curahee, I hope that you will start this game in EXPERT like me, and also hope that you will hold me aware of your progress !
here is my Estern front after 4 months of offencive :

[Image: eastfront.jpg]

In the north, it is tight, my only only one chance is to break with my 4pz to destroy the main group and take a good position around Leningrad..

In the center, this is a nightmare, they are insane..Laybe I have not well managed, my center group is too spread..

In the south, I am defeating them, so I decided to move the 1pz army to support the center group, and btw destroy their center front..I am scared of this..I am also moving in emergency the ARMIR, one of the 2 rumanian army and the Hungarian troops..

I prefer don't talk about the Finland, thir army doesn't exist anymore..

And trust me, I played this Barbarossa better than every of my previous attempts..

I am too proud, I refuse to restart in NORMAL mode..Fiery

DAMN the AI is too strong in OPART III !!! I can not surround them as easily as COW !! they anticipate every of my attempts and break my offensives on their flanks !! :hissy:


RE: europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Currahee - 03-16-2009

I would like to start it, if I can get some of my human games under control!! Did you begin your present game at the very beginning, or at one of the later save states?


RE: europecow ver6.1 (savestates) - Amnesia - 03-16-2009

lol..Now I am sure that no one here even you read my posts..
I created these savestates, so ofcourse I played from the begining..