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Minsk 44 Gold question - jonnymacbrown - 12-19-2021 Has the gold edition fixed the situation where Partizan units are also given Deception unit capabilities? The problem is Deception units are not affected by Patrolling. The deception units can't be spotted nor are their effects negated by patrolling. There are scores of them and it becomes almost impossible to move German units by RR. jonny RE: Minsk 44 Gold question - Dreamslayer_spb - 12-19-2021 Why do you think that it's something like a bug? Maybe this way was simulated coordinated mass partisan actions include actions against RR-net on the eve of Bagration operation. (translated by Google, sorry) Quote:"It was decided to carry out a massive rail strike on enemy communications on the night of June 19-20, 1944. This was indicated on June 8, 1944. “The last uncertainty about the timing of the start of the offensive,” testifies the former Hitlerite general K. Tipelskirch, “dispersed on June 20 , when partisans undertook major sabotage on the railways Pinsk - Luninets, Borisov - Orsha and Molodechno - Polotsk, that is, just on the communications of the Army Group Center [13, p. 442]. RE: Minsk 44 Gold question - jonnymacbrown - 12-20-2021 (12-19-2021, 01:31 PM)Dreamslayer_spb Wrote: Why do you think that it's something like a bug? Maybe this way was simulated coordinated mass partisan actions include actions against RR-net on the eve of Bagration operation. RE: Minsk 44 Gold question - Strela - 12-20-2021 Exactly which scenario are you looking at so I can check the appropriate OOB? thanks, David RE: Minsk 44 Gold question - jonnymacbrown - 12-21-2021 (12-20-2021, 01:16 PM)Strela Wrote: Exactly which scenario are you looking at so I can check the appropriate OOB?Hi. 0623_01a: The Destruction of Army Group Center - [HTH] This is the one with fixed German units. I gave up patrolling deep into the game (turn 60 or so) when I saw my units disordered when in the same hex as a patrolling unit. Also the program would state "Unit disordered by deception unit." jonny RE: Minsk 44 Gold question - KAreil - 12-21-2021 (12-21-2021, 01:50 AM)jonnymacbrown Wrote: Hi. 0623_01a: The Destruction of Army Group Center - [HTH] ...when I saw my units disordered when in the same hex as a patrolling unit. Also the program would state "Unit disordered by deception unit." jonny I only know partisan units from Serbia'14 but there this could easily happen - completely on purpose. If the partisan unit has a higher "range" (e.g. 3 in Serbia'14) than the patrolling unit (e.g. 2 in Serbia'14) then the partisan can disrupt a unit even in the same hex as the patrolling unit. At first I got this wrong but "Patrolling" does not create a "safe bubble". The partisan unit must be within patrolling range to negate it's effect. RE: Minsk 44 Gold question - jonnymacbrown - 12-21-2021 (12-21-2021, 04:00 AM)KAreil Wrote:I understand. The problem is in M 44 there are no Partizan units; only Deception units and the Russians didn't have those. Deception units are impervious to the effects of Patrolling so this negates a whole aspect of the game. jonny(12-21-2021, 01:50 AM)jonnymacbrown Wrote: Hi. 0623_01a: The Destruction of Army Group Center - [HTH] ...when I saw my units disordered when in the same hex as a patrolling unit. Also the program would state "Unit disordered by deception unit." jonny RE: Minsk 44 Gold question - Strela - 12-23-2021 The corrected standard and Alt OOB's are here: Revised Minsk '44 OOB's RE: Minsk 44 Gold question - Ruskolnikov - 03-01-2022 Hi Strela...I bought Minsk 44 around a month ago. Have the revised Minsk 44 OOB's listed above been added to the latest version of Minsk 44 or do I need to add them? Thanks Mark RE: Minsk 44 Gold question - Ruskolnikov - 03-01-2022 Looking at the date modified of the original files, I expect the answers to my question above is I need to add them ? |