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RE:��Low Moral Units - Krak - 10-26-2006 Arkady Wrote:So simple conclusion I agree 100%. As it stands a morale F unit may as well disband once it disrupts. With the rules the way they stand I would be changing all morale F units to morale E units. I wouldn't play F40 again with the stock ratings. RE: ��Low Moral Units - Glenn Saunders - 10-26-2006 Krak Wrote:I agree 100%. As it stands a morale F unit may as well disband once it disrupts. With the rules the way they stand I would be changing all morale F units to morale E units. I wouldn't play F40 again with the stock ratings. I am just trying to get my head around the extend of this issue and while I wouldn't doubt there are F quality troops in the game, I can't find any - not a Single F quality French unit is the 7e Armee. haven't crolled through all the other formations. There are a number of E's but no "F" Even the Dutch are D's and E's. Haven't looked in the Belgians. Anyway - let me know where all these F's are taht are preventing you from playing the Stock Scns. I'm not saying there are none - just I am not sure there is very many either. But it is a BIG OOB and you might be looking in a different place than I am. Thanks Glenn RE: Low Moral Units - Krak - 10-26-2006 Hi Glenn Mostly the F units are Belgian, there are whole Divisions of them. Not sure about the French or Dutch but I suspect there are some amongst them. I will check it out. I am only refering to the campaign game. I think this game (France '40) is the only one in the PZC series with so many F quality units as I haven't encountered this annoyance before, and I have played most of the PZC series. Cheers RE: Low Moral Units - Krak - 10-26-2006 The only morale F units are Belgian. I counted 7 divisions. Thats a lot of useless troops! RE: Low Moral Units - JonS1 - 10-26-2006 Some relevant info here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=95828&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 RE: Low Moral Units - Krak - 10-26-2006 I have no problem with Belgian Divisions being low quality - the issue is to what degree and more so that once a quality F unit disrupts it can never regain good order status. That is if my understanding of the rules is correct. Surley a military unit, no matter how poor, if fully rested, fully armed, in supply and in command would eventually become good order...... RE:��Low Moral Units - Glenn Saunders - 10-27-2006 Krak Wrote:I have no problem with Belgian Divisions being low quality - the issue is to what degree and more so that once a quality F unit disrupts it can never regain good order status. That is if my understanding of the rules is correct. Surley a military unit, no matter how poor, if fully rested, fully armed, in supply and in command would eventually become good order...... I do see your point and if you email me a list of the affected Divisions - my email address is [email protected] - I'll take a look at the situation before we get another update out. Thanks for your help. Glenn RE: Low Moral Units - Dog Soldier - 10-27-2006 Glenn, All the units in the 15th Inf Bde of the 5th Inf Div, BEF are F morale in the stock France 40 OOB If they are disrupted by interdiction traveling to the front, they will not recover. Scenario 0510_01 F Morale Battalions Check the British 5th Inf Division. (29,175) 1/ Green Howards, Kings Own Yorkshire Lt Inf. The rest of the division is C Morale. 1/ York and Lancaster is in the OOB as F morale also, though it is not in all the scenarios with the BEF. Dog Soldier RE:��Low Moral Units - Glenn Saunders - 10-27-2006 RE: Low Moral Units - Peter Szabo - 10-28-2006 I do not see problem with the effect that F units do not recover. The F rating is used to depict units of abysmal quality: that is, units that are both poorly trained and not motivated to fight. History has examples of this. Whether the F rating is justified for the Belgians in F40 is a different question. |