Jazman Wrote:There is room for some verbal rules to supplement the numerical victory calculation. Such as, "if the German holds all the victory hexes in Minsk, he shifts the victory one level in his favor."

I wonder why we don't do this at all? All the old board wargames had such victory conditions.

James Ward Wrote:I think if you cause 150,000 more losses on your enemy than you take in a battle then it's a victory no matter what the victory conditions say! :)
I do think it is very difficult to do well as the Germans in this CG, the Russian's just have some much force and the map is so huge. Just having some sort of Army on the map and holding Minsk might be considered a German victory.

33vortex Wrote:Minsk was a complete disaster for the germans, but of course you all know this. I have all east front titles and have looked through each campaign scenario. Minsk look like hell, the terrain through some of the German units have to retreat is just insane and then when you look at the force concentration and arty firepower of the russian armies... Well... I'm glad I wasn't there that's for sure.

Sometimes I load up a campaign of a selected title just to illustrate to friends how insanely vast operations were on the east front, how hellish conditions were and what the number ratios were. Most people don't have a clue, some are ignorant even.

Didn't the Wehrmacht lose about 800.000 men in the defensive operations around Minsk? Or perhaps that was the entire front during the time frame of Minsk, I'm not sure.

This campaign I will not touch until I've gained much experience... playing through the games in chronological order helps as it's rather easy going at first then at the end of the war nearly impossible. At some point, I might even play allied. ;) If you are looking for a axis opponent, I'm your guy.