Friendly Halftrax Debate - Printable Version

Friendly Halftrax Debate - Printable Version

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RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - Von Earlmann - 05-20-2019

(05-19-2019, 10:53 PM)Ivan The Big Wrote: Hawk, I'm liking that!

Scud, get Dan signed up for AA too! Just in case.

HSL, Ed good to hear from you, how have you been?

ItB

I can go along with most if it except the halftrack cruising out to draw enemy armor op-fire. I suspect it would be a difficult thing to persuade a halftrack driver to do that operation. Of course I don't know any half track drivers; I have never actually seen one; maybe that is why they are so scarce :-)

Actually heard of one that bought a halftrack from military surplus back in the late 60's. He used it to roam around the north woods of NH. He stopped to cut down a tree that was blocking his path and was beset upon by a forest ranger being as he was currently in the White Mountain National Forest range. Assault factor was immediately reduced to zero as was the morale. It is unclear if the ranger had a truck.Yes that is a true story :-)

Halftracks are not always our friends :-(

VE

RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - Dan Caviness - 05-20-2019

(05-19-2019, 03:49 AM)Hawk Kriegsman Wrote: Hello All,

Just when I was minding my own business...…………………...

It is very simple for me.

Does the halftrack have a FP value? Check

Does the halftrack have an Assault value? Check

Can one use halftracks to assault anything they wish? Check

To me halftrack ROEs are not worth the effort.

Will you ban the American quad .50 from assaulting? The German quad 20mm?

Keep in mind that an assault does not explicitly mean hand to hand combat, it does represent 2 units in the same 250 meter hex for a time unit one unit is forced to vacate the hex via retreat of elimination. I see envision it as halftracks blasting away from a 100 meters or less.

By in large using half tracks as combat units will result in you losing more points than you gain.

I go out of my way to destroy halftracks left exposed by my opponents. The point value is just too good to pass up.

Keep in mind that I play with extreme assault only, so halftracks winning an assault against a stack of demoralized units is far from a given.

That being said have I used halftracks to mop up infantry? Yes

Have I used halftracks to mop up tanks? Yes

Have I used halftracks to surround and black? Yes

Additionally I have used British 2 pounder portees and Russian GAZ AA trucks in an assault as well as other armed trucks and I have used the Russian machinegun toting wagon in an assault.

Again if it has an FP and an assault it is a combat unit. And I will use by combat units as I see fit.

Hawk

P.S. Dan is a troublemaker and agitator and should be dealt with harshly by the moderators.

GUILTY as charged Erik...;)
I will have the missus beat me twice as recompense.

RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - Dan Caviness - 05-20-2019

(05-19-2019, 06:10 AM)Scud Wrote:
(05-19-2019, 03:49 AM)Hawk Kriegsman Wrote: P.S. Dan is a troublemaker and agitator and should be dealt with harshly by the moderators.

We're arranging a mandatory 10-hour insurance seminar for him in downtown Hartford, as we speak.

I should flag Scud for that one....cruel and unusual I say...isn't there something in the Geneva Accords that outlaws insurance seminars?

RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - Dan Caviness - 05-20-2019

(05-20-2019, 03:50 AM)Von Earlmann Wrote:
(05-19-2019, 10:53 PM)Ivan The Big Wrote: Hawk, I'm liking that!

Scud, get Dan signed up for AA too! Just in case.

HSL, Ed good to hear from you, how have you been?

ItB

I can go along with most if it except the halftrack cruising out to draw enemy armor op-fire. I suspect it would be a difficult thing to persuade a halftrack driver to do that operation. Of course I don't know any half track drivers; I have never actually seen one; maybe that is why they are so scarce :-)

Actually heard of one that bought a halftrack from military surplus back in the late 60's. He used it to roam around the north woods of NH. He stopped to cut down a tree that was blocking his path and was beset upon by a forest ranger being as he was currently in the White Mountain National Forest range. Assault factor was immediately reduced to zero as was the morale. It is unclear if the ranger had a truck.Yes that is a true story :-)

Halftracks are not always our friends :-(

VE

Now you've made me sad Earl. No halftrack, the friend unit, should be treated in such a fashion.
If that army surplus halftrack still had her .50 cal...I bet that Ranger would have found reverse...and lived to harass another camper another day...

RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - Herr Straße Laufer - 05-20-2019

(05-19-2019, 10:53 PM)Ivan The Big Wrote: Hawk, I'm liking that!

Scud, get Dan signed up for AA too! Just in case.

HSL, Ed good to hear from you, how have you been?

ItB

John,

I was going to e-mail you. I hope all is well with you?

I have my ups and downs. As long as my eyes open and I don't see dirt above me I'll keep moving.

A good half track "friendly debate" makes me smile. Smile

HSL

RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - Hawk Kriegsman - 05-21-2019

(05-19-2019, 06:10 AM)Scud Wrote:
(05-19-2019, 03:49 AM)Hawk Kriegsman Wrote: P.S. Dan is a troublemaker and agitator and should be dealt with harshly by the moderators.

We're arranging a mandatory 10-hour insurance seminar for him in downtown Hartford, as we speak.

LOL!

Well played sir!

Hawk

RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - Herr Straße Laufer - 05-24-2019

Gosh! Batman eek

This is not the normal half track debate? Whistle

HSL

RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - PawelM - 05-25-2019

I think the empty half-track seem to be interpreted differently from player to player.

In my view, one should consider what the creator of the game has had in mind by providing an empty half-track with non zero assault factor and firing capabilities.

Given the depth of the game and how many details are taken into account in the game engine, I find it unlikely that the non zero assault factor is an oversight.

And if it is not an oversight, then maybe the intention of the designer was that empty half-track is something more than a vehicle and the bloke behind the wheel....

We probably never find out for sure unless the creator chips in to the discussion...

The main problem is that we would not be able to enjoy those colorful half-track debates in the forum 😁

RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - Death~Dealer - 05-25-2019

Screw it...I'm just going to add my own type of halftrack to be the mother of all other halftracks...

...I'll just get with Warhorse...he'll show me how to add them to JTCS through all those fancy codes...

...and I'll use them to draw OP fire...CAUSE THEY'LL FIRE BACK!!!

...and yes they can obliterate platoons of loaded or unloaded trucks LIKE ORCAS DINING ON A SEAL COLONY...

...and I can use them to get even with Dan Caviness for the time he outclassed me on the beaches of southern England during Sealion...he made me quit under the pressure...HE REMEMBERS I'M SURE!!!

...ok...ok...no more beer (until later)

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RE: Friendly Halftrax Debate - PawelM - 05-25-2019

(05-25-2019, 05:43 AM)Death~Dealer Wrote: Screw it...I'm just going to add my own type of halftrack to be the mother of all other halftracks...

...I'll just get with Warhorse...he'll show me how to add them to JTCS through all those fancy codes...

...and I'll use them to draw OP fire...CAUSE THEY'LL FIRE BACK!!!

...and yes they can obliterate platoons of loaded or unloaded trucks LIKE ORCAS DINING ON A SEAL COLONY...

...and I can use them to get even with Dan Caviness for the time he outclassed me on the beaches of southern England during Sealion...he made me quit under the pressure...HE REMEMBERS I'M SURE!!!

...ok...ok...no more beer (until later)