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RE:��complete delirium on budapest 45 ' - cavalry corps - 04-18-2007 greg Wrote:Michael G, My topic is the same Iraq is just an example ... and certainly not anti in anyway . Regards Michael RE: complete delirium on budapest 45 ' - ghostrider - 04-19-2007 these recent post are more constructive than the first one  Just a detail ..; T34/85 at the end of summer of 44 and after is more effective than first T34/85 with generalisation of the under calibrate munition B365 P (899 m/s - 140 mm at 500 m) but Pz V had too the panzergrante 40/42 in tungsten ( 106 mm at 2.000 m  ) .... ok Pzc is not a tactical panzer wargames, but recent works of Glantz, frieser, or other historian brings new information to balance german power particularely starting summer 44 and at this date russian force had more effective experience. But i think it's often crazy political decision of Chief of front army or directly Politburo who made massive lost in russian army. operationnal player can simulate an another strategie with out Stalin behind him :kill: as you know, In ' 45, Stalin put on the market of " he course nach berlin " : Joukov, koniev and rokkosovsky, particularely the two first one face the Highless of seelow, joukov becames crazy and made enormous tactical mistake , it's doesn't mean that russian force was bad. If stalin is a paranoid and psychopathe , If her chief of army are afraid by NKVD, it's doesnt 'mean that T34/85 must 17/2 in HK ... :P RE: complete delirium on budapest 45 ' - TET2 - 04-19-2007 RE: complete delirium on budapest 45 ' - cavalry corps - 04-20-2007 So whats the conclusion then on the penetration issue the T34/85 seems lower than even I expected ? I would like to see a table on defensive values there the T34 will come out much better . Never here too much about the JS11 now thats a pretty deadly tank. Remember in PZC its supposed to be a bit abstract , and must take into account many other issues , like speeed, optics, training , leadership etc Michael BTW Tobias .... that line is the best line ... Iron Crosses bla bla in any film - ever . |
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