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Tobruk vs El Alamein - Radetzky - 08-09-2006 dear fellow gamers i'm about to order one of the titles dealing with the war in the western desert, but not yet quite sure which one exactly. from what i've seen so far i'd say EA42 looks like a slugfest with less maneuvering, while T41 provides the bigger map with more strategic options. must admit i've read Niall Barr's book about the Alamein Battles and so i'm tempted to get the coresponding PzCampaign as well. On the other hand, i found the more static battles like Kursk less entertaining as PBEM (for the one playing the defense, that is). if anyone is willing to share his thoughts and compare the strengths/weaknesses of both titles for me, that'd be great! cheers Jan RE: Tobruk vs El Alamein - Ricky B - 08-09-2006 Hi Jan, The EA'42 scenarios cover a wide variety of battles from Gazala through 2nd Alamein. As you say, 2nd Alamein is fairly static, huge amounts of mines, fairly short lines, etc. However, all the other battles, including Gazala at the start, are much more mobile and have wide open areas for maneuvering. So rest assured that this game will have plenty of maneuvering, more than any other game I think, outside of the final battles. Tobruk is also open, but at least for the stock scenarios the forces might be considered to lack their historical punch. In my battles in it, the fighting seemed to break down into actions where small units penetrated gaps in the line to isolate units, then the other side penetrated gaps to isolate yours, on and on but with relatively light casualties considering all this movement. Which was okay up to a point but it was hard to reach a decisive point. Rick RE: Tobruk vs El Alamein - Steel God - 08-10-2006 Either will please you if you are a fan of the NAC. EA42 is fine in it's stock version, and has a nifty add on available that fights the Compass Battles and Beda Fomm. T41 is, as Rick says, a little weak in it's stock release, but a complete revision of all of the stock scenarios by Volcano Man makes T41 every bit as enjoyable as EA42. Paul RE: Tobruk vs El Alamein - Dirk Gross - 08-10-2006 Also, El Alamein has Malta as a standalone scenario (which I've played and thought was a fun little battle, since I own Avalon Hill's Air Assault on Crete that includes Malta), and I think the campaign is affected by Malta's status. Both give you units you don't see in other games (Crusaders, 2 lber Portees, Grants). RE: Tobruk vs El Alamein - Radetzky - 08-12-2006 gents advice taken - i'll order El Alamein right away and Tobruk will follow next month. that'll do the trick ;) cheers and thanks jan