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Kampfgruppe vs Gefehtsgruppe? - Valor - 04-21-2007

Gentlemen,

Can anyone explain me the difference between those two? :conf:

I have found the term Gefehtsgruppe while reading about Panzerverband Ostpresussen (Panzerdivision Kempf) in Polish Campaign...

Thank you in advance cheers

Slawek


RE: Kampfgruppe vs Gefehtsgruppe? - Sgt Barker - 04-22-2007

Sure you're spelling it correctly?

"Gefahr" means alarm, or threat, or danger, things along those lines. "Gefahrgruppe" would make sense as "alarm force" or some such.


RE: Kampfgruppe vs Gefehtsgruppe? - Valor - 04-22-2007

I made a mistake but by not putting "c" in" Gefechtsgruppe...


RE: Kampfgruppe vs Gefehtsgruppe? - Sgt Barker - 04-23-2007

cheers

Makes sense, Gefecht means battle, skirmish, action, things along those lines. Practically synonymous with Kampf.


RE: Kampfgruppe vs Gefehtsgruppe? - Valor - 04-23-2007

Thank you cheers

Slawek


RE: Kampfgruppe vs Gefehtsgruppe? - Huib Versloot - 04-23-2007

I know there is a subtle difference between "Gruppe" and "Kampfgruppe". "Gefechtsgruppe" I had not heard of before. sounds a bit more 'ad hoc' than "Kampfgruppe", but I'm just guessing now.

Huib


RE: Kampfgruppe vs Gefehtsgruppe? - Captain L. - 05-15-2007




RE: Kampfgruppe vs Gefehtsgruppe? - Koen - 05-18-2007

Was 'Gefechtsgruppe' used in the Luftwaffe?


RE: Kampfgruppe vs Gefehtsgruppe? - Captain L. - 05-22-2007

I found one quotation about a Gefechtsgruppe commanded by an Lt.Col. CO of a Flak Rgt.. It took part in the fighting in the East with Army Group Mitte. Maybe something like an ad hoc unit. It was not a common expression. In WW I it was used a bit more often. The size of the Gefechtsgruppe seems to vary. One passage I found is about an Unteroffizier! (Sergeant) commanding a Gefechtsgruppe of a Cavalry Division.