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NCO and leadership - Montana Mud - 04-28-2007 RE: NCO and leadership - PoorOldSpike - 05-02-2007 Drill Sergeant: Gump! What's your sole purpose in this Army? Forrest: To do whatever you tell me, Drill Sergeant! Drill Sergeant: Godamnit, Gump! You're a goddamned genius! That's the most outstanding answer I've ever heard. You must have a godamned I.Q. of a hundred and sixty! You are godamned gifted, Private Gump! ------------------------------------------------------------ Forrest: Done, Drill Sergeant! Drill Sergeant: Gump! Why did you put that weapon together so quickly, Gump? Forrest: You told me to, Drill Seageant. Drill Sergeant: Jesus Christ! This is a new company record. If it wouldn't be a waste of such a damn fine enlisted man, I'd recommended you for O.C.S., Private Gump. You are gonna be a General some day, Gump! Now, disassemble your weapon and continue! RE: NCO and leadership - Pegasus - 05-12-2007 Its difficult to debate the value of NCO's as a single homogenised group. Referring to the British Armed forces, L' corporals tend to be those that have been in a while and know the ropes and are capable of keeping the newbies and di##heads reasonably in line. If they stay long enough and demonstrate some initiative and 'role-based' capability they will make Corporal Sergeants, (including WO's) on the other hand, are the most important rank in the army. They are the link between the commissioned officer corps and the ranks, between the 'intent' and the 'action'. All the practical effort is organised and lead by sergeants. This group needs all the skills of the above, but also the presence, leadership skills, and determination that will encourage others to follow. (if memory serves me right, the biggest proportion of VC's are sergents) This would apply whether the men where defending a position, assaulting a strong point, building a bridge or delivering supplies. Out of all the ranks, I would say Sergeants and WO's are the most significant force multipliers out of all ranks (Bar an inspirational force leader - eg Napoleon, Patton, Nelson, etc) The required qualities for sergeants are built on a base of an individuals qualities and character and developed through training and experience. It's an apprenticeship that can't be re-crated in a classroom or in any other way 'fast-tracked'. As any junior subaltern knows, if you don't earn the respect of your sergeant, you might get away with just a bit of a hard time. If he thinks you're a total prick you may end up as a "FBC" RE: NCO and leadership - Sapper Boots - 05-12-2007 Hi All As a former cut lunch commando (territorial) in the New Zealand army. our lance jacks where guys who had been in so long they had to give it to them. We once got marched from the back left around a corner straight into a wall, in front of about 200 marching girls. but all ranks up from there where there for the men. you had to earn there respect but once you did you where fine. the sgts saved us from many a over zealous officer eager to impress the major or such the orders may come from up high but its the N.C.O's who know what each man is able to do not just look at them as a number RE: NCO and leadership - Havoc - 06-01-2007 The US Marines places a lot of emphasis on its NCO and SNCO ranks. Individual performance varies, but as a whole they are very good and able to operate in the absence of senior leadership. A Marine SNCO trains officer candidates and provides their initial direct leadership while in Officer Candidate School. It is emphasized to new officers that they should learn from their platoon sergeant and adhere to their advice. Bottom line is Marine officers plan and Marine NCO/SNCO's execute the plan! Ooh Rah!