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AP/HE ammo ??? - Target - 02-02-2009

Strange situation PzKw IVb shots at 9TP (polish tank) distance 1050 and ... using HE ammo ?! Why ? Is this bug or I don't know something ???


RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - Vesku - 02-02-2009

Let me guess, SPWW2? Probably the crew thinks it has better chance of knocking the enemy out with HE. Standard explanation when something odd happens in the game, it's never an error or bug, just what the pixel men thinks.


RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - Target - 02-02-2009

ups sorry yes SPWW2 - i understand one crew ... but why few crews doing the same ? :hissy:


RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - Walrus - 02-02-2009

Hi Target

In the SPCAMO games it is written into the code (it is NOT a bug Vesku...you bloody know that!) that if a tank has no chance of penetrating the target with standard AP ammo, usually due to range and the drop off of penetration ability over distance, then the crew will fire HE.
HE has a chance of over-penetration at all ranges and at least gives you a small chance of a result...rather than zero.

The PZ-IVb is an infantry support tank, with a short barrel HE chucking gun. Trying to shoot up tanks at over 1km is not really in it's mandate eh :-)

Cheers
Jason


RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - Vesku - 02-02-2009

Vesku Wrote:it's never an error or bug

:rolleyes:


RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - Target - 02-02-2009

Walrus and Vesku

Thanks for your reply.
If my crews will return from this battle, I have to spoke withg them a little ... Big Grin


RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - Cross - 02-02-2009

Target Wrote:Strange situation PzKw IVb shots at 9TP (polish tank) distance 1050 and ... using HE ammo ?! Why ? Is this bug or I don't know something ???

Not a bug. Pz IVb has a pen value of 5 with AP rounds at 50 yds. so probably can only pen 1 at 1050 yds. The Pz IVb HE round can pen 2 at ANY range. So I think you owe your panzer crew an apology Big Grin They know what they are doing...


RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - Vesku - 02-03-2009

Where can you see what the pen is at different ranges? In waw series you can see it at prop window.


RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - Cross - 02-03-2009

Vesku Wrote:Where can you see what the pen is at different ranges? In waw series you can see it at prop window.

Hi Vesku,

I think SPCamo has always had a policy of not releasing that sort of matrix data.

IIRC, one of their reasons was to keep people from taking too much of a mathematical approach to the game.

Thoug I assume the usefulness of the data would be limited, because you can hit 'weak spots' hit at angles, get mobility kills etc.


RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - Vesku - 02-03-2009

I use that info all the time, it's very useful, often deciding which piece to purchase.