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Mud Movment: Realistic or Not? - Bacillus98 - 07-26-2009

Based on my initial experiences in some of the mud campaigns in Moscow 41 I am surprised that wheeled/tracked vehicles can move quite far off road during these conditions. I have several books about Operation Typhoon, and there are many accounts of German infantry actually catching up or even surpassing the panzers. Even the roads were extremely difficult to move along, as in the case of the 2nd Panzer Army that was forced to use corduroy tree trunks along the road for miles. What do others think on this issue? I am curious to know the design ideas in regards to mud for PzC.


RE: Mud Movment: Realistic or Not? - Sgt Fury - 07-26-2009

Try the alt scenarios, I believe those are a little more accurate in this respect.

Fury


RE: Mud Movment: Realistic or Not? - Bacillus98 - 07-26-2009

Unfortunately Moscow 41 hasn't had the treatment yet. :)


RE: Mud Movment: Realistic or Not? - Bacillus98 - 07-26-2009

Sgt. Fury, do you know where exactly VM changes the mud values? I checked the Parameter Data file and the movement cost is still the same.


RE: Mud Movment: Realistic or Not? - Volcano Man - 07-26-2009

Mud values are modifiers on top of base movement values. What is different (in the _Alt) is the wheeled vs. track movement costs prior to the mud modifier. You can raise the mud modifier if you want, but it isn't going to matter much if the underlying track / wheel speeds are not greatly different to begin with.


RE: Mud Movment: Realistic or Not? - Dog Soldier - 07-26-2009

VM changes the values of each type of hex for each movement category in the pdt file. The VM-alt versions have their own pdt files for this.

Dog Soldier