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Question about Org Mapping Files - majgentob - 09-07-2012

I was looking at the campaign editor manual for FIW, which discusses an Org Mapping file that tells the program where to transfer updated OOB data for subsequent battles. The doc further states, “To learn more about Org Mapping Files, you should review the org mapping files included with the game.” I’ve got four of the campaign series (FIW, Eckhmuhl, Waterloo, and Jena), but I can’t find examples, and Google doesn’t yield anything. Either the Org Maps have been outdated by updates, or no one is making campaigns that use them.

Any advice or new info on these?

Thanks in advance
EoW


RE: Question about Org Mapping Files - Al Amos - 09-07-2012

Org mapping is a pain in the behind, most of us don't do it, BUT we should. By org mapping we could have dynamic armies that change structure from battle to battle.

In the campaign editor you will find the only real explanation (if I remember correctly.) Basically, each unit & leader is given a number for the program to use in a bte/cpf file.

You can ask either the campaign editor or battle editor to make an org file of any oob file. So if you want to use some or all the units of an army in a different structure get the program to show the org numbers for each oob file, then you can create an org file by telling the program where the unit started (1st oob) and where it moved to (2nd oob.) i.e. first rifle company in 1st oob file is 1.1.1.1.1 in the second oob file you transfer it to another brigade so it looks like 1.1.1.2.1 .

Hopefully you get the idea.

Like I said, its a pain to do, but we really should take the time to do it, so we can put together a more realistic army in our campaigns showing how they change to the stresses of campaigning.

Good Luck! al
Okay, in the scenario editor under the file tab you'll see "write OB ID's to file..." if you select that in the Getting Started scenario you'll get the following txt file (formatting lost in thread posting, sorry)

Order of Battle
1 British Army
1.1 Governor Shirley
1.2 Shirley's
1.2.1 Lt Col J Littlehales
1.2.2 Gren co - 50th Foot
1.2.3 1st co - 50th Foot
1.2.4 2nd co - 50th Foot
1.2.5 3rd co - 50th Foot
1.2.6 4th co - 50th Foot
1.2.7 5th co - 50th Foot
1.2.8 6th co - 50th Foot
1.2.9 7th co - 50th Foot
1.2.10 8th co - 50th Foot
1.2.11 9th co - 50th Foot
1.2.12 Ammo Cart
1.3 Pepperell's
1.3.1 Lt Col J Mercer
1.3.2 Gren co - 51st Foot
1.3.3 1st co - 51st Foot
1.3.4 2nd co - 51st Foot
1.3.5 3rd co - 51st Foot
1.3.6 4th co - 51st Foot
1.3.7 5th co - 51st Foot
1.3.8 6th co - 51st Foot
1.3.9 7th co - 51st Foot
1.3.10 8th co - 51st Foot
1.3.11 9th co - 51st Foot
1.3.12 Ammo Cart
1.4 Provincials (Mass)
1.4.1 Lt Col S Pomeroy
1.4.2 1st co - Pomeroy's
1.4.3 2nd co - Pomeroy's
1.4.4 3rd co - Pomeroy's
1.4.5 4th co - Pomeroy's
1.4.6 5th co - Pomeroy's
1.4.7 6th co - Pomeroy's
1.4.8 7th co - Pomeroy's
1.4.9 8th co - Pomeroy's
1.4.10 9th co - Pomeroy's
1.4.11 10th co - Pomeroy's
1.4.12 Ammo Cart
1.5 Provincials (NJ)
1.5.1 Col P Schuyler
1.5.2 Gren co - Schuyler's
1.5.3 1st co - Schuyler's
1.5.4 2nd co - Schuyler's
1.5.5 3rd co - Schuyler's
1.5.6 4th co - Schuyler's
1.5.7 5th co - Schuyler's
1.5.8 6th co - Schuyler's
1.5.9 7th co - Schuyler's
1.5.10 8th co - Schuyler's
1.5.11 9th co - Schuyler's
1.5.12 Ammo Cart
1.6 Royal Artillery
1.6.1 2 lb Gun
1.6.2 2 lb Gun
1.6.3 2 lb Gun
1.6.4 2 lb Gun
1.6.5 6 lb Gun
1.6.6 6 lb Gun
1.6.7 6 lb Gun
1.6.8 6 lb Gun
1.6.9 12 lb Gun
1.6.10 12 lb Gun
1.6.11 12 lb Gun
1.6.12 12 lb Gun
1.6.13 12 lb Gun
1.6.14 12 lb Gun
1.6.15 12 lb Gun
1.6.16 Mortar
1.6.17 Mortar
1.6.18 Mortar
2 Française Armée
2.1 Baron de Dieskau
2.2 2°/Béarn
2.2.1 Col de Montredon
2.2.2 Grenadier Compagnie
2.2.3 1° Compagnie
2.2.4 2° Compagnie
2.2.5 3° Compagnie
2.2.6 4° Compagnie
2.2.7 5° Compagnie
2.2.8 6° Compagnie
2.2.9 7° Compagnie
2.2.10 8° Compagnie
2.2.11 9° Compagnie
2.2.12 10° Compagnie
2.2.13 11° Compagnie
2.2.14 12° Compagnie
2.2.15 Piquet
2.2.16 chariot régimentaire
2.3 2°/Guyenne
2.3.1 Lcl de Fontbonne
2.3.2 Grenadier Compagnie
2.3.3 1° Compagnie
2.3.4 2° Compagnie
2.3.5 3° Compagnie
2.3.6 4° Compagnie
2.3.7 5° Compagnie
2.3.8 6° Compagnie
2.3.9 7° Compagnie
2.3.10 8° Compagnie
2.3.11 9° Compagnie
2.3.12 10° Compagnie
2.3.13 11° Compagnie
2.3.14 12° Compagnie
2.3.15 Piquet
2.3.16 chariot régimentaire
2.4 Royale Artillerie
2.4.1 Canons de 2 livres
2.4.2 Canons de 2 livres
2.4.3 Canons de 2 livres
2.4.4 Canons de 2 livres
2.4.5 Canons de 2 livres
2.4.6 Canons de 4 livres
2.4.7 Canons de 4 livres
2.4.8 Canons de 6 livres
2.4.9 Canons de 6 livres
2.4.10 Canons de 6 livres
2.4.11 Canons de 6 livres
2.4.12 Canons de 6 livres
2.4.13 Canons de 6 livres
2.4.14 Canons de 6 livres
2.5 Milice canadienne
2.5.1 Cne Courtemanche
2.5.2 1° Compagnie
2.5.3 2° Compagnie
2.5.4 3° Compagnie
2.5.5 4° Compagnie
2.5.6 5° Compagnie
2.5.7 6° Compagnie
2.5.8 7° Compagnie
2.5.9 8° Compagnie
2.5.10 9° Compagnie
2.5.11 10° Compagnie
2.5.12 11° Compagnie
2.5.13 12° Compagnie
2.5.14 chariot régimentaire
2.6 indigènes guerriers
2.6.1 Cne Hertel
2.6.2 de St Francis
2.6.2.1 Zokwakii
2.6.2.2 Abnakis
2.6.2.3 Abnakis
2.6.2.4 Abnakis
2.6.2.5 Abnakis
2.6.2.6 Abnakis
2.6.3 de Bécancour
2.6.3.1 Dabaldak
2.6.3.2 Abnakis
2.6.3.3 Abnakis
2.6.3.4 Abnakis
2.6.3.5 Abnakis
2.6.3.6 Abnakis
2.6.4 de Missikoui
2.6.4.1 Sosap
2.6.4.2 Abnakis
2.6.4.3 Abnakis
2.6.4.4 Abnakis
2.6.4.5 Abnakis
2.6.4.6 Abnakis
2.6.5 de Panouameske
2.6.5.1 Gicinemahom
2.6.5.2 Abnakis
2.6.5.3 Abnakis
2.6.5.4 Abnakis
2.6.5.5 Abnakis
2.6.5.6 Abnakis
2.7 Indiens
2.7.1 Cne de St-Pierre
2.7.2 indigènes guerriers
2.7.2.1 Adik
2.7.2.2 Caughnawagas
2.7.2.3 Caughnawagas
2.7.2.4 Caughnawagas
2.7.2.5 Caughnawagas
2.7.2.6 Caughnawagas
2.7.3 indigènes guerriers
2.7.3.1 Wabos
2.7.3.2 Caughnawagas
2.7.3.3 Caughnawagas
2.7.3.4 Caughnawagas
2.7.3.5 Caughnawagas
2.7.3.6 Caughnawagas
2.7.4 indigènes guerriers
2.7.4.1 Adjidamo
2.7.4.2 Caughnawagas
2.7.4.3 Caughnawagas
2.7.4.4 Caughnawagas
2.7.4.5 Caughnawagas
2.7.4.6 Caughnawagas
3 Ammo Cart
4 chariot régimentaire

So you can see the unique numbers each leader/unit gets. If you wanted to move "2.7.3 indigènes guerriers" from the French army to the Britsh army you can do that by making a second oob file. Now if you wanted any losses they suffered as French allies to follow them you would do an OB ID txt file on the second oob file. Since you probably just added the indians to the bottom of the British army list they would, ironically, remain the 7th group, so thier number would be 1.7.3.

This change is what you would tell the .org file about so it could transfer their losses with them as they changed alliances.

Campaign Editor word doc talks about the .org file format on page 7. It is covered there very clearly so, I'll stop confusing everyone now. ;-) al

RE: Question about Org Mapping Files - rahamy - 09-07-2012

Good reply Al!