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Russian "Carrier Killer" Moskva - Elxaime - 09-17-2013 Recent news reports have entitled one of the Russian ships headed for the Mediterranean as "the carrier killer." Here is a link: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/12/russia-carrier-killer-ship-enters-mediterranean/?intcmp=obinsite This is the Russian guided missile cruiser Moskva. I thought I would ask modern naval warfare afficionados here whether this is hyperbole by the news reports. I had the impression the modern Russian navy had decayed somewhat and wasn't regarded as a threat still to a US carrier battle group. According to Google, this ship was launched in 1979, which would make it 34 years old - not that old as ships go, although a bit long in the tooth. The relevant armament are 16x SS-N-12 SANDBOX anti-ship missiles. The SS-N-12 Sandbox entered service in 1973, so it has been around a while, which doesn't tell you much though since so have a lot of still-lethal US armaments. But I have to think an armament that has been around that long has had plenty of time for its targets to devise countermeasures. I also have to think the Moskva's presence is not going unmarked by any Western submarines plying the Med. Fascinating though how a ship that has been around this long can still cause a splash. RE: Russian "Carrier Killer" Moskva - Stejones82 - 09-19-2013 Well, speaking from the perspective of a USN officer from '82-'92, Moskva definitely would get our attention. Memory has long since faded, but it seems to me that the profile of the Sandbox could certainly be lethal. I venture to guess that the days of shadowing are long gone, but perhaps they will be revived. Steve RE: Russian "Carrier Killer" Moskva - Richie61 - 10-12-2013 This is about the Chinese carrier killer, but it sums it up well. Who's Afraid of the DF-21D Quote:The Chinese DF-21D (CSS-5 Mod 4) anti-ship ballistic missile has become the proverbial “boogie man” for a U.S. Navy concerned about China’s evolving Anti Access/Area Denial (A2D) capability. This weapon is indeed an impressive achievement and does present a significant addition to the threat faced by warships at sea. While a major advance in military capability, it is not the first “game changing” weapon system mitigated or countered by the U.S. Navy. http://www.informationdissemination.net/2013/10/whos-afraid-of-df-21d.html |
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