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Why can't take these arty units ? - NicolasBourbaki - 05-05-2021 Hi, I've been trying to destroy these 2 Prussian arty units but without success. I've launch many melee, fired many times and nothing will work ! All my units end up routed, including large bataillons of 500+ men ! All this for 8 + 4 poor guns without any Prussian infantry unit defending the hex. Just the guns. This is from "Rep. Bayonets on the Rhine" game. Any idea/explanation ? Thanks [attachment=5058] RE: Why can't take these arty units ? - wildb - 05-05-2021 Is the optional rule Movement Threat Disorder checked? The artillery units are at B level whereas the attacking units are at C or D level. Those are my initial impressions. RE: Why can't take these arty units ? - agmoss99 - 05-05-2021 Also attacking head on with column pass through fire on, can cause huge losses. And disordered troops melee at half strength. RE: Why can't take these arty units ? - NicolasBourbaki - 05-06-2021 Quote:Is the optional rule Movement Threat Disorder checked? Yes. But 500+ men should be able to take a few guns ... I sacrifised at least 5 or 6 units, most of them of 400+ men ... Also, by looking at the 3D map (i'm normally not using the 3D map) I notice that the arty units are in a fort !!! This may explain too of course. Somehow ... These Prussian arty guys definitely need a decoration ! RE: Why can't take these arty units ? - jim pfleck - 05-06-2021 The PDT file says Artillery Combat Values Melee: 40 men so those guns have a melee value of 14 x 40=560 men. You need to hit it in the flank or rear with a leader. RE: Why can't take these arty units ? - NicolasBourbaki - 05-06-2021 Thanks, this would explain !! ... and yes, it worked ! Quote:The PDT file saysWhat is the PDT file ? RE: Why can't take these arty units ? - phoenix - 05-06-2021 (05-06-2021, 03:24 PM)NicolasBourbaki Wrote: Thanks, this would explain !! The PDT file can be accessed from the dropdown menus in game - it gives all the values that apply in the scenario. Plus, with a little use of mods you can play with much nicer, clearer graphics, Nicolas. Then it would be easier to see the fortifications. I am also presently playing Pirmasens as French, PBEM, and currently being massacred in front of those guns..... My graphics look like this; Easier to see the forts, no? The graphics are based on Aoi99's really excellent map mod - https://www.theblitz.club/message_boards/showthread.php?tid=74499 RE: Why can't take these arty units ? - NicolasBourbaki - 05-06-2021 Oh ! It's "Parameter Data dialogue" ? I never bothered to look at it yet ... Looks definitely interesting. And yes, your 2D map is much much better than mine. Will install the mod ASAP. Many thanks. |