Ladder Ranks

wigam · 07-11-2006, 04:28 PM,

Hi All

I may have missed it when it happened, but i was just looking at the SP ladder and noticed something strange to me. Eek

Every one has had there ranks changed. I see former generals as sergeants and so forth.

Did i miss somthing there or is this new?

Wigam

Steel God · 07-11-2006, 08:47 PM,

You didn't miss anything. All of the rank structures are being reworked as part of the ladder realignments. The immediate result on a ladder like SP is to bust a lot of people's ranks down, but as soon as we implement the changes to the scoring side of things you'll see them go back up.

It's all tied to the ladder parity issues we've been working on for the past few months.

Paul

wigam · 07-12-2006, 09:25 AM,

Thanks Paul

I had a wee chuckle :laughing:when i thought a hacker had made his way into the Blitz site and made Jad and Vesku Sergeants. But my chuckle turned to tears and sobbing on the couch as i saw i was a PFC again.:hissy:
Nah no worries at all.
Cheers paul

Marcus

Weasel · 07-12-2006, 11:10 AM,

I kind of like all the generals being knocked down. I don't think it will be too long before the entire club is all senior officers

Vesku · 07-13-2006, 02:56 PM,

No objection here. I've always thought that stepping up the ladder is too quick. How about relative ranks? Only one general and 75% privates :)

Weasel · 07-13-2006, 03:07 PM,

You haven't been in the Canadian Forces then have you? We have about 175 flag officers for 60,000 troops. We have enough army generals that they could each command a platoon!!! When you consider their wages start at $120,000.00 and go up to $150K year that is a lot of waste.

Grumbler · 07-13-2006, 10:55 PM,

In the States, making Flag rank is a Political process. Military skill is irrelevent. The Pols just assume that all O-5's are created equal.
That is the major reason why the US Military has produced so few notable flag officers, and so many incompetent ones.:hissy:

Steel God · 07-14-2006, 01:59 AM,

Vesku Wrote:No objection here. I've always thought that stepping up the ladder is too quick. How about relative ranks? Only one general and 75% privates :)

We tried but it was a programming nightmare in the first place, and in the second we were really trying to do the renovation with no changes to the software, let alone a mess like that.

There was also the stagnation factor...now someone would be denied a generals ranks because some old timer got here 5 years ago and even though he plays one game a year now, he would be a general and some young fire brand who plays 100 games a year is stuck at colonle because there is no slot open....we didn't like the taste of that.

Paul

Steel God · 07-14-2006, 02:03 AM,

Grumbler · 07-14-2006, 03:03 AM,

Steel God Wrote:
Grumbler Wrote:In the States, making Flag rank is a Political process. Military skill is irrelevent. The Pols just assume that all O-5's are created equal.
That is the major reason why the US Military has produced so few notable flag officers, and so many incompetent ones.:hissy:

Four years of sustained ground combat will alter that fact. Any peace time force will become burdened with political appointees, but combat has a way of making the cream rise to the surface. I suspect that the crop of senior officers that command a decade from now will be a very talented and pragmatic group.

Paul

I agree, unless the Islamists win, in which case they will be dead and buried.

"There is nothing inevitable about military victory, even for forces of apparently overwhelming strength. The Greeks at Marathon, Alexander against the Persian Empire, the success of the colonists against the British in the American Revolution, Napoleon over the Austrians in Italy... all offer dramatic evidence to the contrary. In the absence of inspired military leadership... the more powerful side wears down the weaker."
- Bevin Alexander

The US Army has always preached manuver warfare, but practiced attritional warfare. Considering our enemy out numbers us by about 4 to 1, and the political unwillingness to inflict casualties attrition might not be the correct game plan for this war. Time will tell if Hack was correct or not. Fortunatly, so far their 'generals' have been worse then ours. It should would make me feel more comfortable if the US produces a military genuis about now. Although anything beyond the ones we have now, who are barely competent, would be nice.
In 20 years the RPV technology will be available for ground units, which will go a long ways toward addressing the numbers issue and political reluctance to give and take casualties.:smg: