Stalingrad 42

[Plain Ian]

Finally had some free time so I installed my WDS 4.0 version today. Thank you WDS! 

A new scenario #1119_01c_Uranus_Alt_Nev.scn caught my eye so I tried to load it up. Scenario error generated?

Looked at the files and I think the oob and pdt files are missing?

Stalingrad '42 Nov_Alt_McNamara_Nev.oob
Stalingrad_Winter_Alt_Nev.pdt

Nice touch adding a Changelog pdf file to the game. 
Also I'm liking the new briefings which appear in the scenario dialogues. Recommended Rules/options is very useful. Thank you Green. 

Ian from 'bonnie' Dundee

[Green]

Finally had some free time so I installed my WDS 4.0 version today. Thank you WDS! 

A new scenario #1119_01c_Uranus_Alt_Nev.scn caught my eye so I tried to load it up. Scenario error generated?

Looked at the files and I think the oob and pdt files are missing?

Stalingrad '42 Nov_Alt_McNamara_Nev.oob
Stalingrad_Winter_Alt_Nev.pdt

Nice touch adding a Changelog pdf file to the game. 
Also I'm liking the new briefings which appear in the scenario dialogues. Recommended Rules/options is very useful. Thank you Green. 

Ian from 'bonnie' Dundee

Oops! If that was not previously included in S41, then it must have been a mod that I downloaded at some point. Not sure were it came from but it is included in the Blitz scenario database.

This scenario may possibly not be included in future releases but here are the files you need.

Stalingrad '42 Nov_Alt_McNamara_Nev.oob

Stalingrad_Winter_Alt_Nev.pdt

John

[Plain Ian]

Finally had some free time so I installed my WDS 4.0 version today. Thank you WDS! 

A new scenario #1119_01c_Uranus_Alt_Nev.scn caught my eye so I tried to load it up. Scenario error generated?

Looked at the files and I think the oob and pdt files are missing?

Stalingrad '42 Nov_Alt_McNamara_Nev.oob
Stalingrad_Winter_Alt_Nev.pdt

Nice touch adding a Changelog pdf file to the game. 
Also I'm liking the new briefings which appear in the scenario dialogues. Recommended Rules/options is very useful. Thank you Green. 

Ian from 'bonnie' Dundee

Oops! If that was not previously included in S41, then it must have been a mod that I downloaded at some point. Not sure were it came from but it is included in the Blitz scenario database.

This scenario may possibly not be included in future releases but here are the files you need.

Stalingrad '42 Nov_Alt_McNamara_Nev.oob

Stalingrad_Winter_Alt_Nev.pdt

John

Thanks John. 

Downloaded and had a look. Also did some research and looked at von Nevs notes in the TOC Mods Scenario List. 

Interesting changes. Adding the Bunker line useful for guiding people into a historical line. I was hoping to see the units in Stalingrad severally depleted (checkout the Atherton scenario) but he's kept this as per the standard Alt game. 

Von Nev made them 2009. A lot happened in PzC since then. The Changelog is great for tracking changes but it doesn't have dates which is a pity. Not that it matters. If anyone wants to play the game they play it with the current rules I suppose.

307 turns is too much for me but I'll potter about with it........ and wait for Indragnir.   


Ian in 'mild but bonnie' Dundee

[Jim]

I havent looked at that particular version but I think Mayorovskiy (0724) looks kinda fun. Mind you I havent played it yet.

Just an old timer with PzC's observations. The game is even more fun to me now than it was all those years ago. Is Smolensk really like 20 years old? However I liked the infantry fire attack sounds of yore better than the new ones. But the other sounds are fine. The graphics...well especially the map graphics to me are much much better. The game is beautiful...even prettier than Grigsby's War in the East but thats my opinion. I have posted here in various places a few times that and in a few emails that I still believe PzC to be the best "Pure" wargamer's wargame on the computer. I have played a few other series and the guys are doing a good enough job with some of the other games, but for someone like me who has been a board gamer since the '70's, PzC fits the bill.

[Plain Ian]

I havent looked at that particular version but  I think Mayorovskiy (0724) looks kinda fun. Mind you I havent played it yet.

Just an old timer with PzC's observations. The game is even more fun to me now than it was all those years ago. Is Smolensk really like 20 years old? However I liked the infantry fire attack sounds of yore better than the new ones. But the other sounds are fine. The graphics...well especially the map graphics to me are much much better. The game is beautiful...even prettier than Grigsby's War in the East but thats my opinion. I have posted here in various places a few times that and in a few emails that I still believe PzC to be the best "Pure" wargamer's wargame on the computer. I have played a few other series and the guys are doing a good enough job with some of the other games, but for someone like me who has been a board gamer since the '70's, PzC fits the bill.

Hi Jim. Mayoroviskiy or Breakout Group Zhuravlev is fun. I've played it once and made an AAR about it. I thought it was slightly pro German but I guess I didn't play well enough as the Russian. In fact I guess with two evenly matched players it could go either way. 

Well Smolensk is pretty old. I think if anyone is interested in Panzer Campaigns and its history should pull up a chair and open up the Changes.txt or Changelog and have a good read! Maybe grab a nice drink. Dark rum for me.

When you introduced me to Panzer Campaigns 20 years ago I'm sure it was Smolensk you showed me how to play.

I agree 100% with everything you said about why we keep coming back to PzC. The scope of the maps and the OOB detail can not be beaten! Open up any campaign game of Stalnigrad 42 and you are instantly blown away!

Ian still in 'bonnie Dundee'.

[Plain Ian]

There is one thing about the Stalingrad 42 I'm not keen on and that is the Fields graphic.



I realize fields won't be significant terrain in east front games but I think we should have better graphics than this?



Ian

[Jim]

Yeh they could look more like fields haha...and yes...funny you should mention Ian... I was watching a youtube video on Stalingrad and how the Southwest and Stalingrad fronts linked at Kalach....wouldnt you know it? I just happened to have my Stalingrad 42 game on my desktop and loaded it in...sure looks fun!!!
And yeh...HoI is cool....Strategic level....play any nation....research....but isnt it more realistic to take Panzergruppe 2 Led by Guderian and head out across the steppes toward Smolensk? Get on that highway man. Pzr XX 3 followed up by Pzr XX 4. First Cav protecting flanks. Hey...How many units in a Pzr XX in HoI??? One? you can have what 3 or 4 in War in the East? But in Pz??12? 15? Plus the 24th Corps level assets? I dunno...I like them all. I like Decisive Campaigns also but in Barbarossa there is like 4 hexes between Vitbesk and Orsha. In Smolensk 41 its like 80 lol. Ok a way different scale but still.....the Panzer campaigns make you feel your right there because of the scale. And the whole scope of the game and the attention to detail..putting out minefields, digging in, the detailed way combat works, fatigue/disruption etc recovery ZOC effects, etc, etc. I mean I could go on and on. Sheer genius. Long live the series.