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3rd Armored Division question
11-17-2007, 10:48 PM,
#1
3rd Armored Division question
Perhaps someone with a big WW2 library around here...??
I need to know the composition of CCA US 3rd Armored Division in the 2nd half of September 1944. Been looking for this in my own sources and on the net for a week now and can't find it. Did find how CCB was made up with TF King/Mills and TF Lovelady, but it would be nice to have info on CCA (and hence CCR) as well.

any help greatly appreciated

Huib
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11-18-2007, 02:20 AM,
#2
RE: 3rd Armored Division question
Hi Herr Huib,

I looked on the web and found *www.3ad.com* you can cut and past for browsing.
3rd AD was one of two that were maintained as "heavy armored" with 32nd Regiment and 33 Regiment, 36th Armored Infantry Regiment, Field Artillery 54th, 67th, & 391st, Recon-83rd, and Engineers-23rd. Some Armor Battalions were moved to be attached to other Divisions after and during the Bulge.
I'll look in my "library" to see if I can get more details.

The web site above gave task force leader names etc. With limited details.

Ed
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11-18-2007, 05:31 AM,
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RE: 3rd Armored Division question
Thanks, i've gotten this far:
Normally CCA/3 would be like this:
The composition of Combat Command "A" in Europe normally consisted of the 32nd Armored Regiment, less one battalion; the 67th Armored Field Artillery Battalion; one battalion of the 36th Armored Infantry Regiment; one battery of the 486th Armored Anti-Aircraft Battalion; one company of the 23rd Armored Engineer Battalion; one company of the 703rd Tank Destroyer Battalion; one company of the 45th Armored Medical Battalion, and one company of the 3rd Armored Division Maintenance Battalion.

I just need to fill in the Co & Bn numbers for 2nd half of September 1944(battle of the Stolberg Corridor). As less than half the tanks were servicable in this period, it would be hardly more than 1 Tank Bn here.
Oh well, otherwise I'll just use this info as best effort. Just would like to get it exactly right if possible.
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11-18-2007, 05:58 AM,
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RE: 3rd Armored Division question
Copied and pasted from THE U.S. 3rd ARMORED DIVISION HISTORY WEBSITE *http://www.3ad.com/*

COMBAT COMMAND "B"
Call sign: "Ontario"
Like Combat Command "A", the story of CC "B" is the history of the 3rd Armored Division. Under Brigadier General Truman E. Boudinot, the volatile California horseman, tanker, and one-time army free balloon racer, Combat Command "B" fought many of the hardest and most successful actions ever engaged in by "Spearhead" forces. CC "B" lotted up a record of successive victories throughout the entire western campaign. From Normandy to the Elbe, General Boudinot led this big, versatile command to final victory. It was no accident that CC "B" took the first German town to fall to an invader since Napoleonic days. These same dusty, triumphant tankers, infantrymen and engineers, along with their comrades of CC "A" and "Reserve", later led the American First Army into flaming Paderborn to encircle the vital Ruhr area of industrial Germany. During heavy action through the Normandy, northern France, Ardennes, Rhineland, and central Germany campaigns, this crack armored assault force ground ahead against all odds.

The composition of Combat Command "B" in Europe, normally included the 33rd Armored Regiment, less one battalion; the 391st Armored Field Artillery Battalion; one battalion of the 36th Armored Infantry Regiment; one battery of the 486th Armored Anti-Aircraft Battalion; one company of the 23rd Armored Engineer Battalion; one company of the 703rd Tank Destroyer Battalion; one company of the 45th Armored Medical Battalion; and one company of the 3rd Armored Division Maintenance Battalion. While this battle tested array often varied - extra infantry units and other elements added as the situation demanded - the original composition remained without radical change.

Working in close harmony with General Boudinot were his headquarters officer personnel: Lt. Colonel Wesley A. Sweat, executive officer, who was transferred to division forward echelon late in August, 1944, and replaced by Major Ralph M. Rogers. Major Rogers later became S-3 Air Officer. Lt. Colonel Robert D. Albro then assumed the duties of executive, an office he ably administered throughout the Ardennes and German campaigns. Major William A. Castille, S-2, and Captain Robert W. Angel, S-3, were also veterans of the entire European operations of Combat Command "B".

Originally, CC "B" was the 2nd Combat Command of the 3rd Armored Division when, back in early 1942, a streamlining of armored force organization disbanded the old separate brigade set-up in favor of a more modern, integrated system. Brigadier General Geoffrey Keyes was commanding then, and his staff included: Lt. Colonel Julian H. George, 1st Lt Melville I. Starke, and 1st Lt. John T. Wingard.

The modern combat command, which dominated armored warfare in the west, came into being during that summer of 1942. CC "B" was commanded by Brigadier General John J. Bohn, after General Keyes left the division and, indeed, throughout all of the command's training at the California Desert Center; Camp Pickett, Virginia; Indiantown Gap, Pennsylvania; and during the eight month sojourn in England, General Bohn commanded. He also led CC "B" into action in Normandy.

Combat Command "B" sailed for overseas service early in September, 1943. Upon arrival in the United Kingdom, the headquarters, along with its primary combat force, the 33rd Armored Regiment, was billeted in Warminster, Wiltshire. Then, throughout the fall, winter and spring of 1943-44, the command maneuvered over chilly Salisbury Plain, engaged in numerous landing exercises along the British coast, and generally received a last minute review of training for the great crusade which was to begin on June 6.

The wartime record of Combat Command "B" is indicative of its spirit in action. On the debit side, General Boudinot's command sustained more casualties than either "A" or "Reserve". It was this competitive drive which, in the opinion of many competent military observers, contributed much to the dogged stand at Mortain in early August, 1944, when elite German panzer elements attempted to break through American lines to reach the sea at Avranches. Units of the 30th Infantry Division, backed by General Boudinot's tanks, tank-destroyers, and infantry stopped the enemy effort in its tracks. For this action, the elements of the 30th Infantry Division concerned later received a Distinguished Unit Citation.

After the highly successful summer campaign through France and Belgium, CC "B" elements were the first allied troops to enter Adolf Hitler's Third Reich in force, and the first to capture and occupy a German town, Roetgen, on September 12, 1944. Later, during the terrible Ardennes winter campaign, General Boudinot's tankers and other arms combined again with the 30th Infantry Division to create and then eliminate the "La Gleize Pocket", an early victory for defending Americans. Here, the SS LEIB-STANDARTE ADOLF HITLER Panzer Division sustained heavy losses.

Beyond the Rhine, in the great, final offensive of 1945, Combat Command "B", battling heavy odds, as usual, smashed through to liberate the death camp slaves at Nordhausen after playing a great part in closing the important Ruhr, or as the First Army named it, "Rose Pocket."

When the 3rd Armored Division came out of the fighting lines shortly before the official declaration of Germany's surrender, CC "B" was the only "Spearhead" unit that could boast having bridged the Mulde River. The command, and all of its component units, had a habit of getting out front. They were there when the final whistle sounded.
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11-18-2007, 06:11 AM,
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RE: 3rd Armored Division question
There are several 3rd Armored unit histories online (old and not very accurate when it comes to an objective description of events). I've managed to find the exact oob of CCB in one of those though, but as of yet not of CCA.
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11-18-2007, 08:52 AM,
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RE: 3rd Armored Division question
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/documents/eto-ob/3AD-ETO.htm

H.v.F.
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11-18-2007, 09:13 PM,
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RE: 3rd Armored Division question
H.v.F. Wrote:http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/documents/eto-ob/3AD-ETO.htm

H.v.F.

This page only gives CCA/3's detailed composition during times of detachment to other parent divisions. This was not the case in September 1944.
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