Spotting Forts

[PoorOldSpike]

This chart is an abstracted condensation of a number of tests I conducted to determine at what ranges enemy fortifications will appear on the map.
I placed pairs of forts, one of each pair in open ground, the other in woods (note the green strips) then placed a line of infantry 2000 metres away from the fort line and observed what they could see. (just the Gun-armed pillbox).
I then returned to the editor and placed the infantry line at 1500 metres, restarted the game, and this time they could also see the MG-armed pillbox.
Eventually by moving the infantry further forward each time, I was able to log at what ranges every type of fort became visible.(Daisies were the last to be spotted when the infantry closed to 100 metres)
NOTE - Ranges will vary according to weather and visibility etc and whether the spotters are moving or not (movers spot poorly)
The tests were carried out with stationary veteran infantry on a clear summer mid-day.
(Note with some forts it makes no difference if it's in open ground or in woods, the spotting distance remains the same)

[Colonel Talvela]

NOTE - Ranges will vary according to weather and visibility, oop quality, and whether the spotters are moving or not (movers spot poorly)
The tests were carried out with stationary veteran infantry on a clear summer mid-day.

It should be further noted that The Coil did extensive tests this summer that showed that unit quality makes no difference in how well a unit spots. That is - an elite unit spots at the same range as consript unit.

[PoorOldSpike]

The Coil did extensive tests this summer that showed that unit quality makes no difference in how well a unit spots

Thanks for that mate, after reading it I went back and did more tests but they were inconclusive, I changed everybody to conscript and in the first test they spotted slightly worse than vets, but then I ran it a couple more times and they seemed to spot just as good as vets, so on the whole I won't stick my neck out by concluding they're worse or as good as vets until I can pin it down for sure in future testing in a whole variety of weather conditions etc.
However as a meantime compromise i'll edit out the line in the original post which said quality affects spotting..:)