Really bad film...

Gasbag · 02-04-2007, 08:28 AM,

02-04-2007, 08:59 AM,

Funny you should say that about the music over powering the dialogue... I found exactly the same thing while watching The Black Dahlia (yawn) with the missus this very evening.

KTN · 02-04-2007, 09:28 AM,

I just bought Flyboys last night. Im going to watch it tonight.

Gasbag · 02-05-2007, 01:15 AM,

Russell Crowe's "Master and Commander" had the same problem with background music & sound effects interfering with dialogue. When the characters are out on deck it's hard to catch what they're saying above the music & ocean waves: you almost need to be able to read lips. Enjoyable film though (he doesn't have a :hissy: fit & throw a telephone at anyone Big Grin

).

Hopefully you didn't pay too much for Flyboys.

KTN · 02-05-2007, 03:04 AM,

Okay, I watched Flyboys last night I thought it was that bad. It's not great but it's not bad either. It doesn't rank up there with the likes of
Saving Private Ryan or Band Of Brothers.
On a side note. Everybody seems to like The Thin Red Line. The WWII movie in the Pacific. I have watched two time and after the second time I threw it in the garbage. It all depends on your taste I guess.

Skeld (FGM) · (This post was last modified: 02-05-2007, 03:16 AM by Skeld (FGM).)

Gasbag Wrote:Russell Crowe's "Master and Commander" had the same problem with background music & sound effects interfering with dialogue. When the characters are out on deck it's hard to catch what they're saying above the music & ocean waves: you almost need to be able to read lips. Enjoyable film though (he doesn't have a :hissy: fit & throw a telephone at anyone ).

Hopefully you didn't pay too much for Flyboys.

Crowe is one of my favorites, "Gladiator" was a little over the top but an excellent film. "A Beautiful Mind" though is easily his best effort. That "Dirty Jobs" show is pretty entertaining as well, Rowe is quite comical.

"Flyboys" looks like its all "Hollywood-ed" up, majoring in large fireballs and impossible aerobatics, maybe I'm wrong but I'll rent it rather then buying it.

Yes I agree "Thin Red Line" sucks large, if I ever see it again it will be too soon.

RedDevil · 02-05-2007, 03:26 AM,

If you want to see a decent war flick that you can watch with the lady, pick up Saints & Soldiers

another one I thought was fair was called The Last Drop

Gasbag · (This post was last modified: 02-06-2007, 04:55 AM by Gasbag.)

I have the The Thin Red Line & I found it to be very long & drawn out. One of those movies that makes your bum sore (from sitting so long).

You're better off renting Fly Boys. The effects in it were okay (except for the surfeit of all red Fokker Dr. 1's). It was the acting & script that was awful. It'll be in the reduced price section at HMV in a few months & even then I won't buy it.

D-Day_Dodger · 02-07-2007, 08:48 PM,

Yep, I watched "Flyboys" and all I have to say is that it's musical equivalent would be classed as elevator music. This is a formula movie from beginning to end. It reminded me of "Pearl Harbor", some exciting CGI enhanced sequences sandwiched between pure schlock. It also seems that the current Hollywood format requires all big budget films to have a "chick flick" aspect to them to maximize the audience appeal. This one doesn't disappoint in that respect as one of our heroes gives his French girl friend joyrides and rescues her in his plane in the middle of the night.
My favourite piece of stupidity is when one of our Flyboys crashes his plane in No Man's Land and another of his buddies lands between the two lines to rescue him. Even the director of the movie realized the impossibility of a plane landing in the crater pocked hell of No Man's Land, so he just skips the landing part, and we see only the pilot climbing out of his plane.

I haven't laughed so hard since I saw the scene in "Memphis Belle" where the bombadier of the Memphis Belle, which is the lead bomber in a huge formation of B-17's, tells his pilot that their target is partially obscured by clouds and that there is a risk they might hit a hospital which is adjacent to the target. So the pilot decides that he must go around again for another approach, which he does and presumably the hundreds of other B-17's in the bomber stream which stretches back hundreds of miles, follow suit. Can you imagine the chaos such a manuver would create?

Oh, and back to our hero rescuing our other hero in No Man's Land. One guy's hand is pinned under his plane so his buddy convieniently finds a shovel nearby and hacks the guys hand off. Anyhow, later in the movie this dude returns with his new hand, I mean hook, and resumes his flying career. Now I can buy that, I guess, but the hook sticks out so much further than his real hand that it is obvious it was stuck over top of his supposedly missing hand (Dear Director, if you can't do it right, don't do it at all).

It's a shame that the good production values and graphics were wasted on producing a comic strip intead of a novel. The Blue Max with George Peppard is still an infinitely better movie.

jonnymacbrown · 02-08-2007, 01:12 PM,

Gee you guys are really a tough audience! While there was some good and bad in Fly Boys, methinks The Thin Red Line is the greatest war movie ever made. The camera work was amazing, filmed on location in the Solomons, with very little dialogue to interfere with the amazing colors and sets, not to mention the locals as cast. The all-star cast did a good job for a great Director who obviously put a total effort into a first class production. Sorry you guys missed it. Von ege. :P