Whoosh..

[PoorOldSpike]

[RedDevil]

wouldn't the shooters get a little flashback from these things?

[PoorOldSpike]

Definitely.. :)

[Turbala]

My grandfather fought in Finland winter and continuation war, he got speedy behind-the-lines basic training on panzerfaust on june -44 during the russian grand offence. The training team he was in had a accident when the trainer forgot to remove the cap from the back end of the panzerfaust, one man standing dozen meters or more behind the trainer got the cap straight in the forehead. He got a nasty wound, but survived. My grandfather remembers also seeing some poor partly burned soldiers finnish soldiers on frontlines, because they fired those weapons without any knowledge of their flashbacks...

[PoorOldSpike]

Looks like the Finns got the hang of it.. ;)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tali-Ihantala.jpg

[PoorOldSpike]

http://virtual.finland.fi/netcomm/news/s...SAID=28271

"Nobody respects a country with a poor army, but everybody respects a country with a good army. I raise my toast to the Finnish Army." J.Stalin 1948

"Finland alone - in danger of death, superb, sublime Finland - shows what free men can do."
-Winston Churchill, 1939


"We gained 22,000 square miles of territory. Just enough to bury our dead"
-Soviet General, 1940

[Copper]

Great pics even if the second one is a propoganda mock up.

[Jobu88]

From the Bulge Museum in Bastogne:

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[PoorOldSpike]

As I said earlier, the panzerfaust comes in 3 versions - 30, 60,100, the number refers to its range in metres (plus a 30k version which is a lightweight 30)
The test below shows a 100 clobbering a T-34/85 at 96 metres

[Bert Blitzkrieg]

Observation about the PIAT: according to the tests by POS the PIAT has a hit chance of 44% at 100 meters. In a game I'm playing (against POS !) one of my PIAT teams shot 6 times at a Panzer IV from about 85 meters, hitting once. It gave a hit probability of 37%. Way lower therefore then the test by POS indicated. Of course, visibility plays a part too.

Another thing about the PIAT: saw a documentary on Discovery from the serie Weaponology. It was an episode about infantry anti tank weapons. According to this program it was very common that the range of the PIAT was not more then 40 meters ! A lot less then the 200 meters in Combat Mission !
A remark by a WW2 veteran: you should be awarded the Victoria Cross just for firing a PIAT. It wasn't loved at all by the infantry.

So, the PIAT is overmodelled in CM ??