Why I miss old clickies: a lament...

[McIvan]

I've received comments from other staffers wondering why it's even being considered since it's only a complaint about not being able to give multiple clickies to everyone, which was an abuse issue in the old system.

Agree, however I think it was a very minor abuse issue (so far as I know). The issue I guess is whether it was more beneficial than aggravating.

I agree with them that, just because a few people on the CM forums say they are not posting here anymore because of the clickie system change, and want\ need change and review of the system, is simply not going to happen.

I think that's an unfair dismissal of the well reasoned posts made by The Coil. There were a number of good points made quite early on with regard to multiple clickies which seem to have been forgotten, with the Coil simply referring back to them on one occasion rather than repeating, which he might have been better off doing. Refer to pages one and two. To post one example:

From Coil's posts1) Clickies serve a valuable purpose in providing feedback to forum conversations. When you post something about tactics, or an AAR, or just some thought you had about CM, you never really know if other people are reading it, or what they think about it. One of the problems with a forum like this is it's hard to judge how other people are reacting to something you post, particularly because most people read way more than they post. Clickies were a valuable way to provide and receive feedback - when you post something, and 2 or 3 people green clicky you for it, it gives you a way to judge people's response to it. With the new system, there's really no motivation to clicky someone, especially if you already have in the past, so you (or I, anyway) tend to not give out clickies at all anymore, thus robbing the boards of a feedback mechanism that I think is pretty vital to lively interaction. Now, you might say that there is still feedback - you can (and people do) post their responses in the thread. Sure, but nobody wants to read a bunch of posts that say "Yup, I agree" or whatever. Clickies were an efficient back channel way to provide feedback with a minimum of effort and clutter.

edit**** We're discussing it now however, and we might do a poll


And yes, I did receive quite a few emails on the old rep system and I went after those who were causing issues, and they weren't just from you know who. :)

Those emails (afaik) were from people getting unjustified neg reps against harmless posts. Remains to be seen whether they'l be mollified by only one red clickie....because one red now counts for a lot more than it used to.

You're presented a fair say, up to a point, about the clickie issues, but in review, it's only about you and your buddies "having fun" with the system. Which really is the same as saying you're not posting here anymore, because you can't "abuse" (pervert, I think you said) a feature of the forums to your satisfaction. By "Abuse", I don't mean in a manner of extreme-ness, the abuse you were doing, was somewhat harmless to a point, but becoming a nuisance and developing into a distraction on the CM forum.

I think this does not bear close resemblance to the reality of the forum with Coil/Col T and Leto in full swing. We stepped in on the only occasion where clickie talk looked even vaguely like getting out of control. Generally it was just amusing banter, and there is plenty of room on the forum for that. Far from deterring anyone, it seemed to spark the forum somewhat, making it a more lively place, in my personal opinion.

I didn't mind for a bit, but I came to realize that instead of using the CM forums for CM gaming discussions, it was becoming a spot to harbor all things not associated with CM and this was in fact, not fair or appropriate to the CM community here.

I don't understand this one....what things not associated with CM? While clickie banter took on somewhat of a life of its own, it didn't seem to stray into non-CM associated topics...it was either its own little world or it was in connection with CM threads or DARs.

Oh well, back on track here about clickies..

I'm only guessing here, but the rest of the club seems happy about the current clickies system situation. I'd have to agree with them.

My guess would be that they don't care (at least, not enough to post about it), not that they're actively happy as such. They'll probably continue not to care if the system changes back :)

In the long run, the Rep points will sort out as members overcome the hurdles of the system limits and make it work as it should or as they "think" it should

The CM community will still be here as well, chugging along. :)

Disagree and agree, respectively per para, because, as mentioned, I think the community mostly aren't terribly fussed.

Personally I would like to see the old system restored with the following changes, for those persons that do have an interest in the system, whether their interest be mild or high:

1. Rep points are no longer anonymous
2. Rep points for any one person are limited to one per day.

Look forward to seeing the poll.....would also like to have some input into the poll questions (which, as pollsters will tell you, can often inadvertently pre-determine the answer).