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Campaign System
10-02-2007, 02:39 PM,
#47
RE: Campaign System
[hirr Wrote:Leto]
I agree that an operational and historically functional campaign system would not be a ladder player's wet dream. The simplicity of a solution to that is as easy as just not recording campaign system games.

That works for me as well.

Quote:I for one am interested in becoming engrossed within the real strategic, logistical and operational elements of what a campaign system could offer the players: realistic simulation of battle conditions that develop from the overarching generation of long term strategy.

Bootie and I have discussed this some. Not sure if you have an overall operational commander, have the TOAW guys play the generals giving their subordinates the assignments, have a committee command group or how we would want to do the operational unit movement and attacks. Who would determine the support assigned to each, what units to move and where...all of the higher level decisions.

Quote:This does not rule out the fact that extremely interesting and even balanced battles would take place.

Some will. Not nearly as many as most people think.

Quote:Assume a map that has several terrain obstacles that do not allow for the rapid advance of an attack, such as marshes, forest, or even cities. The impetus would be very much focused upon the actual variables that operational commanders would face when making decisions with regards to troop movements, troop quality, troop unit diversity, fortifications, attack/defense and other things.

The playtest map had different terrain types on it. The operation we were/are working on is Khar'kov winter/spring 42/43. There is mostly steppe terrain in the area. Not exclusively though. It is winter and all rivers are frozen.

Quote:You would not send a panzer KG to attack a marsh, nor would you send an SMG regiment to defend an open steppes.

I think the emphasis must be solely concentrated on the aspect of reality that ground the functioning of the campaign system to a set of criteria that is designed to simulate the strategic factors that were the mainstay of world war 2 divisional commanders.

That is the goal.

Quote:I for one would take part in a campaign system that gave me the strategic choice to make logistical decisions, even if it meant that some extremely lopsided battles were generated. I think that the severity of these unbalanced engagements are being overexaggerated IMHO.

Cheers!

Leto

Ah, but who will make those decisions? Just you? A team of players? All of the players on a particular team?

We playtested six battles, that Bootie and I generated. Of those six only one went beyond 10 turns. That battle would have been a continuation battle since it went all 20 turns and was still undecided.

You can think I am overexaggerating if you like but I'm the one that ran the test not you....lol...I'm the one with the actual results. :whis: :smoke:

Good Hunting.

MR
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Campaign System - by Easymeat - 09-23-2007, 12:35 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Smashing(FGM) - 09-23-2007, 12:47 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-23-2007, 09:02 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-23-2007, 12:32 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 09-24-2007, 01:44 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 09-24-2007, 01:57 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-24-2007, 04:59 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Copper - 09-24-2007, 06:24 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-24-2007, 09:21 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Ratzki - 09-24-2007, 03:56 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 09-24-2007, 08:25 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 09-25-2007, 08:05 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-26-2007, 10:23 AM
RE: Campaign System - by McIvan - 09-26-2007, 10:51 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-26-2007, 01:50 PM
RE: Campaign System - by McIvan - 09-26-2007, 02:09 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-26-2007, 02:36 PM
RE: Campaign System - by kineas - 09-26-2007, 03:50 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 09-27-2007, 01:57 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Copper - 09-27-2007, 02:45 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-27-2007, 01:45 PM
RE: Campaign System - by McIvan - 09-27-2007, 02:02 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Ratzki - 09-27-2007, 09:11 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-27-2007, 01:48 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Copper - 09-27-2007, 08:10 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Copper - 09-27-2007, 08:13 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Rico (FGM) - 09-27-2007, 08:57 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-29-2007, 02:03 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Copper - 09-27-2007, 09:11 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Copper - 09-27-2007, 09:17 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 09-28-2007, 09:49 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-29-2007, 02:09 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 09-29-2007, 07:32 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 09-30-2007, 12:11 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 09-30-2007, 09:43 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-01-2007, 12:38 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Rico (FGM) - 10-01-2007, 03:43 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-02-2007, 11:14 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Ratzki - 10-01-2007, 03:55 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-02-2007, 10:44 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Rico (FGM) - 10-01-2007, 08:05 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-02-2007, 10:46 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Fullhouse - 10-02-2007, 01:37 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-02-2007, 11:12 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 10-02-2007, 02:02 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Copper - 10-02-2007, 11:16 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-02-2007, 02:39 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Copper - 10-02-2007, 03:04 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-02-2007, 10:08 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Fullhouse - 10-02-2007, 08:00 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-02-2007, 09:45 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 10-02-2007, 08:15 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 10-02-2007, 10:37 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-02-2007, 10:53 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 10-02-2007, 11:43 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-03-2007, 04:40 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Vulture - 10-03-2007, 08:54 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 10-03-2007, 08:59 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Vulture - 10-03-2007, 09:36 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 10-03-2007, 09:04 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Vulture - 10-03-2007, 09:44 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 10-03-2007, 10:01 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-03-2007, 10:45 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Vulture - 10-03-2007, 11:46 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-04-2007, 11:19 AM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 10-08-2007, 08:57 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Mad Russian - 10-08-2007, 10:31 PM
RE: Campaign System - by Easymeat - 10-09-2007, 12:02 AM

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