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Normandy 44 Bunkers
11-08-2007, 02:24 AM,
#17
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers
It seems to me that the game does not do the actual beach landings well and it's no reflection on VM's great dedication and work here, may he long continue.
But if we take the actual beach fortifications these are 7 kilometers of actual pillbox, that is each kilometer comprises of a kilometer wide pillbox or put another way a kilometer squared pillbox.
This is more like the Maginot Line than the Atlantic Wall.
Lets face it the Atlantic Wall, so called Fortress Europe was a joke. The Allies went through it like a knife through butter. In most places it only held them up until 1000 (4 hours) and on Omaha men were getting off the beach by 1400 (7 hours)
I know there were a large number of casualties here or at least by western standards. But due to the courage of the others they did get off the beach, even though they were delayed somewhat. I think it is bad our game can change the courage of these men and I think the real battle should always be inland from the beaches. The beaches should be no more than a delaying of the invasion as in reality.
This brings me back to the pillboxes they could only hold about 20 to 50 men maximum plus some a number of Guns. I'm not talking of the inland ones here like"Hillman" which held more men.
Yet I am faced in one pillbox anyway by 6 xxx's (over 600 men) and 1 x guns of some description (FOG here). The other boxes are pretty similar although I haven't counted them all.

The other thing with this scenario is Allied units are all fixed at night unless in direct contact with the enemy. But the Axis is free I assume to move. I can understand this is to simulate the tendency of the Allies to rest at night and not fight, while the Axis brings up reinforcements.
All well and good, but it means the allies can't bring any reinforcements up at all for two turns. I always assumed that night fatigue was the deciding factor in whether you wished to fight at night or not. I'm sure some Allies moved up to the front at night. I've read it so it must be true.lol

I suppose at least for my satisfaction feet dry or a similar scenario would be a better option, but this starts with all Allied Forces on 200 fatigue.
This also seems a very high amount to me where many men will have walked ashore as if on a Sunday stroll. I of course strongly disagree with this amount of fatigue.
I would have tinkered with the scenarios myself and tried to do something here, but I'm not sure I can use the Editor.
I'm sorry to go on about this but I think it bears dome debate and I see I'm not alone in my opinions.

Regards,
Gordon
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Messages In This Thread
Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Gordons HQ - 11-06-2007, 06:02 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-06-2007, 10:06 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Baelfiin - 11-06-2007, 11:04 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Rev Rico - 11-07-2007, 01:27 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-07-2007, 02:35 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-07-2007, 02:36 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Gordons HQ - 11-07-2007, 06:21 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Aetius - 11-07-2007, 09:22 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Barbarrossa - 11-07-2007, 09:39 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Hog of War - 11-07-2007, 10:04 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by keif149 - 11-07-2007, 10:44 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-07-2007, 01:07 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Bushido - 11-07-2007, 11:35 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Baelfiin - 11-07-2007, 11:42 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-07-2007, 12:47 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Mr Grumpy - 11-07-2007, 05:16 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Gordons HQ - 11-08-2007, 02:24 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-08-2007, 06:24 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-08-2007, 07:26 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Mike Bowen - 11-08-2007, 07:53 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by keif149 - 11-08-2007, 10:09 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-08-2007, 03:38 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Gordons HQ - 11-09-2007, 12:44 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Sgt Barker - 11-09-2007, 04:30 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-09-2007, 10:14 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-09-2007, 11:39 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Peter777 - 11-09-2007, 12:53 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Peter777 - 11-09-2007, 01:12 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Gordons HQ - 11-09-2007, 10:15 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Peter777 - 11-09-2007, 10:47 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Mike Bowen - 11-10-2007, 08:57 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-11-2007, 04:26 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Baelfiin - 11-11-2007, 05:35 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Mike Bowen - 11-11-2007, 07:38 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Barbarrossa - 11-11-2007, 02:32 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Dog Soldier - 11-14-2007, 05:12 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Hog of War - 11-15-2007, 01:33 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-15-2007, 03:12 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Peter777 - 11-15-2007, 07:29 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-15-2007, 09:45 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Hog of War - 11-15-2007, 10:19 AM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Gordons HQ - 11-15-2007, 10:20 PM
RE: Normandy 44 Bunkers - by Volcano Man - 11-16-2007, 08:00 AM

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