Jumbo Wrote:This is for Ed and Huib,
I know it may seem unlikely to both of you that the M12 SP gun was used in direct fire on tanks. But the fact is they positively were. Was it on a daily regular basis? .. Probably not. But when deemed necassary and the most effect way to counter the threat they were. Do this. Search the internet about the M12, And look for historical accounts and discriptions as to how they were employed and used in combat. And I'm certain you will find the answer to this question. Some detailed research on your part before making your comments would have likely made your comments not necassary. I did my research and do have accounts and descriptions of the M12 being used in direct fire not only against tanks, But halftracks and infantry as well. If your search doesen't bear anything out for you. I can allways pass on a few of my sources.
Have fun with your searches and have a Merry Christmas!!
Eric
Hi Eric,
I've exhausted some preliminary searches and will put this one on the back burner for the sake of other issues. :eek1:
What I will say is; I'm not so sure I would want to put an M12 in a scenario with the capablility of taking out a Tiger at range, by direct fire, if in the history of the entire war less than .001 percent of all armor losses were to the M12 and it's direct fire. :coffee:
I once started to play a scenario that was supposed to be Kursk '43 and ended up quitting the game after I was annihilated by the Tiger II's, Panthers, and the entire production run of all Ferdinands made during the war that were holding down one flank, before I ran into the Panther II's, battalions of Engineers, and the 88 mm AT guns that held up the rear. (3/4's of the German TOE would not have been available until early '45, but, who is quibbling?)
I imagine some players would begin to put "favorites" in and begin to water down the scenarios in the area of historicity and balance?
Pandora's box should remain closed in certain areas of the game?
Just my two cents.
Ed
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