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Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles
01-24-2008, 08:15 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-24-2008, 08:23 AM by PoorOldSpike.)
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RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles
I just ran this set of tests with Russian ATR's, it pretty much confirms what's already been said, namely that you have to get your units to within about 100metres of ATR's in cover to spot them.

ATR's
Of the two Russian models, the PTRS is fractionally better as the pen figures reveal.
[Image: ATRs.png]



TESTS
Pic 1 - This is the view in the Russian setup turn (the Germans can't see them). 3 x Russki ATR's are in the woods ready to open up. All units on both sides are veterans, summer midday clear weather..
[Image: atrA.jpg]




Pic 2 - The ATR's decimate the German halftracks and REMAIN UNSPOTTED (just 'sound contacts') even though German infantry is a little over 100m from the ATR's. (Grid squares are 20m)
[Image: atrB.jpg]




Pic 3 - In this next test the German infantry is inside 100m and SPOTS the ATR's when they open up, and returns fire on them. The halftracks also return fire now that the infantry have spotted them..
[Image: atrC.jpg]



PIC 4 - For this test I've removed the German inf from the map to see how well halftracks spot.
At over 100m they CAN'T SPOT the ATR's which are ripping them to shreds, they just get sound contacts.
[Image: halfts100plus.jpg]



Pic 5 - But now I've moved the halftracks to inside 100m and THEY SPOT the ATR's and begin hosing them down. Note all 3 ATR's are now not sound contacts, they're solid targets..
[Image: halfA.jpg]
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Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by dmattwads - 01-24-2008, 05:39 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by fluidwill - 01-24-2008, 05:50 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by Randalll - 01-24-2008, 07:29 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by Jobu88 - 01-24-2008, 07:55 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 01-24-2008, 08:15 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by dmattwads - 01-24-2008, 09:57 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 01-24-2008, 12:52 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 01-24-2008, 01:04 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by Randalll - 02-01-2008, 06:34 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by JasonC - 02-17-2008, 01:22 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by kineas - 02-19-2008, 04:17 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 02-17-2008, 03:25 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by Jobu88 - 02-17-2008, 10:26 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by bluehand - 02-18-2008, 12:05 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by Marshall666 - 02-18-2008, 12:30 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 02-18-2008, 01:58 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 04-06-2008, 03:04 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by Der Kuenstler - 04-06-2008, 04:53 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 04-06-2008, 05:29 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 04-07-2008, 12:21 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by Vartuoosi - 04-07-2008, 09:04 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 04-07-2008, 11:09 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by Dominator - 07-18-2008, 10:26 PM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by Justin MacDuro - 07-19-2008, 02:14 AM
RE: Spotting Anti-Tank Rifles - by PoorOldSpike - 08-01-2008, 12:34 PM

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