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tanks
04-15-2008, 01:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-15-2008, 01:14 PM by Colonel Talvela.)
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RE: tanks
standing up t34/76s against stugs in '43 will be a loss for the t34s everytime. But one of the best things about CM compared to hex based systems in my opinion is the movement model, and the t34 demonstrates that better than any other tank with a real gun IMO. On the move, T34s can turn really quickly, so you should be able to flank a stug and kill it - except a good player will put it in a keyhole spot and protect its flanks with AT guns and shreks - but I digress.

concerning rate of fire - I am pretty sure buttoning does not make a difference. As mentioned above, the big difference is size of the shell. Here is a ROF table for different axis tanks

(Tank/gun size&length/shots fired per minute)
PzKw H-39 735(f) Hotchkiss 37f/L33 7
PzKw R-35 731(f) Renault 37f/L21 7
PzKw 35-S 739(f) Somua 47f/L34 5
Panzer IB 12
Panzer IIC 20/L55 12
Panzer IIF 20/L55 11
Panzer IIJ 20/L55 11
Panzer IIL Lynx 20/L55 14
Flammpanzer II (30m) 9
Panzer 35(t) 37t/L40 10
Panzer 38(t)A 37t/L48 10
Panzer 38(t)E 37t/L48 10
Panzer 38(t)G 37t/L48 10
Panzer IIIF 37/L47 10
Panzer IIIG 50/L42 9
Panzer IIIH 50/L42 8
Panzer IIIJ short 50/L42 9
Panzer IIIJ short late 50/L42 9
Panzer IIIJ 50/L60 9
Panzer IIIJ late 50/L60 9
Panzer IIIL 50/L60 9
Panzer IIIM 50/L60 9
Panzer IIIM late skirt 50/L60 10
Panzer IIIN 75/L24 7
Panzer IIIN late skirt 75/L24 6
Flammpanzer III (60m) 9
Panzer IVC 75/L24 7
Panzer IVD 75/L24 7
Panzer IVE 75/L24 6
Panzer IVF 75/L24 7
Panzer IVF2 75/L43 6
Panzer IVG early 75/L43 6
Panzer IVG 75/L43 6
Panzer IVG late skirt 75/L48 7
Panzer IVH skirt 75/L48 6
Panzer IVJ skirt 75/L48 6
Ostwind (AA) {PzIV} 37/L57 13
Wirbelwind (AA) {PzIV} 20/L55 14
German (Axis) Gun ROF
(Reg)
Panther D skirt trap 75/L70 6
Panther D late skirt trap 75/L70 6
Panther A early skirt trap 75/L70 6
Panther A skirt trap 75/L70 7
Panther G trap 75/L70 6
Panther G late 75/L70 7
Tiger E early 88/L56 5
Tiger E 88/L56 5
Tiger E late 88/L56 5
King Tiger (Henschel) 88/L71 6
234/2 Armored Car Puma 50/L60 9
234/3 Heavy Armored Car 75/L24 7
234/4 Heavy Armored Car 75/L46 7
T-34/76B M1941 747® 76r/L42 5
T-34/76C M1942 747® 76r/L42 5
T-34/76D M1943 late 747® 76r/L42 5
T-34/85 M1944 late 747® 85r/L55 5
Tank Destroyers
PzJaeger I {PzI} 47t/L43 7
Marder II early TD {PzII} 76r/L51 7
Marder II TD {PzII} 75/L46 5
Marder III early TD {38t} 76r/L51 7
Marder III TD {38t} 75/L46 7
Marder III late TD {38t} 75/L46 7
Hetzer 38(t) skirt 75/L48 5
JagdPanzer IV early {PzIV} 75/L48 7
JagdPanzer IV skirt {PzIV} 75/L48 7
Panzer IV/70(A) skirt 75/L70 7
Panzer IV/70(V) skirt 75/L70 7
Nashorn TD {PzIV} 88/L71 6
JagdPanther early TH 88/L71 5
JagdPanther late TH 88/L71 5
JagdTiger 128/L55 3
PzKw M15/42 738(i) 47t/L43 9
Ferdinand {Tiger (P)} 88/L71 5
Elefant {Tiger (P)} 88/L71 5
SU-85® 85r/L55 6
German (Axis) Gun ROF
(Reg)
Assault Guns
sIG33 IB Bison {PzI} 150/L11 2
Wespe Arty {PzII} 105/L28 4
sIG33 Grille {38t} 150/L12 3
sIG33/1 Grille {38t} 150/L12 2
StuG IIIB {PzIII} 75/L24 6
StuG IIIE {PzIII} 75/L24 7
StuG IIIF {PzIII} 75/L43 7
StuG IIIF late {PzIII} 75/L43 6
StuG IIIF/8 {PzIII} 75/L48 7
StuG IIIG early {PzIII} 75/L48 6
StuG IIIG early-mid {PzIII} 75/L48 7
StuG IIIG mid skirt {PzIII} 75/L48 7
StuG IIIG late-mid skirt {PzIII} 75/L48 7
StuG IIIG late skirt {PzIII} 75/L48 7
StuG IV skirt {PzIV} 75/L48 7
StuG IV late skirt {PzIV} 75/L48 6
StuH42 early {PzIII} 105/L28 4
StuH42 mid skirt {PzIII} 105/L28 4
StuH42 late skirt {PzIII} 105/L28 4
Sturm IG33B {PzIII} 150/L11 3
Brummbar early {PzIV} 150/L12 2
Brummbar mid skirt {PzIV} 150/L12 2
Brummbar late skirt {PzIV} 150/L12 3
Hummel Arty {PzIV} 150/L30 2
Sturmmorser {Tiger} 380/L5 0.46
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tanks - by Weasel - 04-15-2008, 11:46 AM
RE: tanks - by McIvan - 04-15-2008, 11:58 AM
RE: tanks - by Mad Russian - 04-15-2008, 12:01 PM
RE: tanks - by McIvan - 04-15-2008, 12:02 PM
RE: tanks - by Mike Abberton - 04-15-2008, 12:18 PM
RE: tanks - by Colonel Talvela - 04-15-2008, 12:33 PM
RE: tanks - by Weasel - 04-15-2008, 12:53 PM
RE: tanks - by McIvan - 04-15-2008, 01:08 PM
RE: tanks - by Colonel Talvela - 04-15-2008, 01:13 PM
RE: tanks - by Chipmunk - 04-15-2008, 01:25 PM
RE: tanks - by McIvan - 04-15-2008, 01:37 PM
RE: tanks - by Colonel Talvela - 04-15-2008, 02:13 PM
RE: tanks - by herroberst - 04-16-2008, 02:23 AM
RE: tanks - by Weasel - 04-16-2008, 02:37 AM
RE: tanks - by Colonel Talvela - 04-16-2008, 05:24 AM
RE: tanks - by McIvan - 04-16-2008, 06:56 AM
RE: tanks - by Maakt Droog - 04-16-2008, 02:50 AM
RE: tanks - by RedDevil - 04-16-2008, 03:14 AM
RE: tanks - by RedDevil - 04-16-2008, 02:59 AM
RE: tanks - by Weasel - 04-16-2008, 05:28 AM
RE: tanks - by Mike Abberton - 04-16-2008, 03:06 AM
RE: tanks - by RedDevil - 04-16-2008, 06:55 AM
RE: tanks - by RedDevil - 04-16-2008, 07:02 AM
RE: tanks - by Weasel - 04-16-2008, 07:50 AM
RE: tanks - by RedDevil - 04-16-2008, 07:55 AM
RE: tanks - by WarHammer11A - 04-17-2008, 12:57 AM
RE: tanks - by Chipmunk - 04-17-2008, 01:18 AM

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