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What Huib (and others maybe) don't like about PzC
05-05-2008, 01:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-05-2008, 01:50 PM by von Nev.)
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RE: What Huib (and others maybe) don't like about PzC
Barbarossa said: "Similarly, the same applies to equipment comparision. The German equipment had wonderful specifications and was beautifully made in relation to crude but strong and reliable Soviet ones. This in its turn often persuades the designers to give the German an undue edge Most players as a consequece generally favour to play the Germans and change history."

As somebody that has played the full campaign for Moscow 41 and Stalingrad 42 as the Germans I can fully attest that I got my arse handed to me in each game as happened historically. In fact, in Moscow 41, I battled my way into Moscow and got within one hex of the VP Kremlin hex before I was beat back handily by a concentrated assault of arriving Russian reserves. In Stalingrad 42 I was beaten within 2 weeks of start of Uranus which was completely ahistoric. In fact, I am working on making changes to that campaign to give the Germans more of a fighting chance.

Additionally, I am playing an altered Minsk 44 campaign as the Germans and also having a very rough time despite having 10 more German divisions than happened historically.

I have played the Russians in Kharkov 42 and actually won that campaign. I played the Allies in Budge 44 and won that campaign. I played a long scenario in El Alamein as the British and won that scenario. I played the Russians in a Smolensk 41 campaign (the revised campaign by Mike Avanzini) and won that handily as the Russians. I also won it as the Germans too but barely. I won a minor victory on one of the last 15 turns.

I understand your point Barbarossa, but my experience playing campaigns doesn't align with what you have said. I really think that one of the biggest challenges of the PzC series is playing defense as either the axis or the allies. This issue I think drives a lot of what people think are balance issues with the game towards the Germans. Being the allies on defense is hard work, but the Germans can be defeated. For example, in the Ostkrieg campaign that is going on right now, for the same S41 scenario where the Germans are on offense the reported games have varied considerably from Major German victory to Major Russian victory. This is for a scenario that is considered balanced and has people matched based on ELO. In my game as the Germans against a very good opponent I pulled a Draw (on turn 24 of 25).

Just my $0.02.
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RE: What Huib (and others maybe) don't like about PzC - by von Nev - 05-05-2008, 01:47 PM

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