Were the Germans really that good?

[Huib Versloot]

HiHi

Err, point of Order???

Russia was the first opponent who refused to fold after 3 months and from that point on it was really a lost cause

?? It could I think be reasonably suggested that England and the British commonwealth had actually been fighting the Germans a tad longer than 3 months!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/pictures/image...05,00.html

Paul If, as you imply, it was the staying around (who refused to fold after 3 months) that made it a lost cause for Germany (from that point on it was really a lost cause), then maybe England should take the credit, after all if they had chucked it in like the French did it is doubtful Russia would have managed against the whole weight of Germanys war machine.

It may be worth pondering on that possibly the 2 most important battles against Germany were won in the air & at sea in the military field (Battle of Britain & Battle of the Atlantic), a 3rd may also be included that of the civilian population both on land and at sea. While from September 1939 Germanys ally Russia was supplying the raw materials for the Blitz & the U-boat campaign it was the our Civilians and Merchant Navy that bore the brunt of German aggresion, they refused to buckle and it is from that firm base, 'The will to win' that Germany was defeated.

So possibly the answer to Weasels question should be, "Yes the Germans were good, but thankfully we were better".

Just a Thought.

All the Best
Peter

I think none of the allied nations could have held against the Germans on their own. Certainly not Great Britain. The Brits were no match for the Germans on land (as the 1940 campaign had demonstrated). It was just their luck that Hitler had his focus on the Soviet Union.

SG puts forward some strong points. You'll find these supported in most serious literature. As an example: It took the Americans many months to fight through the Hurtgen. A few miles south are the same type border forests of the Ardennes: The Germans smashed through the US line in a matter of hours/days during the Ardennes Offensive. Exactly the same type of operation the Americans should have executed in the Hurtgen area, only in a eastern direction, instead of going west.

Huib