Were the Germans really that good?

[Weasel]

I am speaking of all levels: tactical and strategic, men, equipment, training, etc etc. Everyone says they should have, could have kicked the worlds ass, yet they lost and lost BIG. Everyone can point out tactical battles to prove their point that is not a problem, but look at the whole picture.

If you want to go man for man then I would say that the Canadian troops were the best in the world in both World Wars, and there is a ton of evidence to back that up. Being abused in your training doesn't make you a fantastic soldier.

Tank for tank, the Germans on paper had the best in the panther if you just look at combat ability. But take into account ease and cost of production and then you would have to say the Sherman or T34 were the best in the world. Capable, cheap, and reliable.

Aircraft? Well the 109 had short legs and it's best version, the 109G was easily beaten by the Spitfire IX, Thunderbolt, P51, Migs and La's. FW190 was better, but still had superior opponents to knock it from the sky.

Ships? They built two capable BB that were once again over the top complicated and costly, and thus non-sustainable. U-boats were only effective until the Allies got their sonar sorted out, and then by 1943 they were neutralized.

Generals? Well, they had some great ones that is for sure, but every army does. All in all I would say this is a tie between all nations.

Industry? Once again, not capable of going toe to toe with either the US or Russia, even if raw materials were not scarce.

So, I still disagree.

Gee it sure is strange that all you guys are wrong and I am right! :P