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Time Scale
06-14-2008, 03:14 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-14-2008, 03:30 AM by Osiris.)
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RE: Time Scale
HI

I think Huib makes a good point: 6 minutes equal 240 turns to make a day..Let me illustrate how the 6 minute rule cannot work. From reading accounts at Kursk, On July 8-43..SSDR and SSLAH fought a 70 minute battle with 40+russian tanks and in the end they knocked out something like half of them..It is almost impossible to recreate this in CS..That would be a 15 turn game against a single Russian tank brigade! and it would have to suffer only 50% losses...On July 8, 2 SSPZ Corp destroyed 82 russian tanks in a 24 hour period..so in 240 turns, to recreate this battle the Russians could not lose more than 82 tanks..good luck doing that in CS.. In 10 turns in CS you can wipe out an entire Tank Corp.

Talosnsoft/MCS is based on the orginal board games from Avalon Hill. The designer of those games was one of the orignal creators of East Front from Talonsosft. The reasons for the original 6 minute rule are found in the original manual for Panzer Blitz and Panzer Leader. Its a simple engineering mechanics calculation that simply looks at how time does it take to cover a certain distance and does not factor in combat. Factors such as order delays and faitgue, supply etc are not factored into this equation. One can consider themselves lucky if an armored formation can advance 20 km a day.

From Panzer tactics a book which I bought, a german tank regiment on the march is supposed to stop every 30 minutes for 1-2 hours for maintanence and supply, thats when they had Pz IIIs and Pz IVs. When it came to Tigers they had to stop every 5-10km! Some blitzkrieg!

I think the 6 minute idea needs to be tossed. Maybe in the long run replaced with something else that factors in additional values such as supply, combat, fatigue, supply, order delays weather etc...


Osiris
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Messages In This Thread
Time Scale - by Osiris - 06-13-2008, 06:33 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Huib Versloot - 06-13-2008, 07:01 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Herr Straße Laufer - 06-13-2008, 08:09 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Osiris - 06-13-2008, 08:26 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Tide1 - 06-13-2008, 10:30 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Herr Straße Laufer - 06-13-2008, 11:13 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Tide1 - 06-13-2008, 11:30 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Huib Versloot - 06-13-2008, 05:27 PM
RE: Time Scale - by Osiris - 06-14-2008, 03:14 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Tide1 - 06-14-2008, 04:02 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Herr Straße Laufer - 06-14-2008, 06:43 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Jason Petho - 06-14-2008, 06:52 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Herr Straße Laufer - 06-14-2008, 07:20 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Huib Versloot - 06-14-2008, 07:32 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Huib Versloot - 06-14-2008, 07:24 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Herr Straße Laufer - 06-14-2008, 07:44 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Huib Versloot - 06-14-2008, 07:14 PM
RE: Time Scale - by Osiris - 06-14-2008, 08:19 AM
RE: Time Scale - by K K Rossokolski - 06-14-2008, 01:15 PM
RE: Time Scale - by Herr Straße Laufer - 06-14-2008, 09:12 PM
RE: Time Scale - by K K Rossokolski - 06-15-2008, 11:22 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Herr Straße Laufer - 06-15-2008, 10:54 PM
RE: Time Scale - by Osiris - 06-15-2008, 11:45 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Afro Thunder - 06-15-2008, 02:10 PM
RE: Time Scale - by Osiris - 06-15-2008, 04:06 PM
RE: Time Scale - by Chuck10mtn - 06-15-2008, 11:36 PM
RE: Time Scale - by Von Earlmann - 06-16-2008, 01:50 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Herr Straße Laufer - 06-16-2008, 02:08 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Osiris - 06-16-2008, 02:19 AM
RE: Time Scale - by Gordons HQ - 06-17-2008, 05:53 AM
RE: Time Scale - by alaric99x - 06-17-2008, 06:27 AM

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