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Call me a pedantic old bore, but.....
07-16-2008, 02:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-16-2008, 02:36 PM by Jason Petho.)
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RE: Call me a pedantic old bore, but.....
K K Rossokolski Wrote:Which I am sure many of you will on reading this. But I can remember plenty of heated arguments in this forum on small matters of detail, and here is another. The new V 1.03 ORBATS..terrific stuff, wonderful new units, the compiler/s fully deserve our thanks and congratulations. But there are a couple of errors of terminology.

Please tell me what they are so I can correct them!

K K Rossokolski Wrote:Go to a May '45 US orbat and open it up...everything is a FORMATION. Not so. In US and Brit useage, a Battalion or equivalent is a UNIT. below that, companies, platoons, sections are SUB-UNITS. Formations are aggregates of units and/or sub units, hence they start at Regiment/Brigade level. (We need not bother with Commands, - a theatre level term)

I think this deserves correction.

The US Army in late 44 and 45 was built around Combat Commands. Usually Combat Command A, Combat Command B and Combat Command R (Reserve).

In the 45 order of battle you'll notice that there are "Combat Command A, Combat Command B and Combat Command R headquarter units. These are 1 SP HQ's.

This allows the scenario designer to create historical Combat Commands and have them function as Combat Commands in game.

Traditionally structured units are still available in the Order of Battle as "Campaign Formations" at the bottom of the Division listing. Additionally, the original Talonsoft formations are there for those that prefer them.


K K Rossokolski Wrote:The '45 Brits have a section for Brigades, but it is empty, all the Brigades are in with the Regiments. Now I acknowledge the difference( if any) between a REGT and a BDE can be argued about for ever, noting especially the British history of the Regiment being the spiritual home of the soldier, as for instance the 4th Duke of Bottomshire's Own Royal North South East West Midlands Fusiliers, Cooks and Bottlewashers with a history going back to 1194, whereas the BDE is normally the functional formation. But if they're called REGT or BDE, why not group 'em under those available headings.

But I'm just an old sailor man, albeit one who believes the devil is in the detail.

The British haven't been touched yet. They will be for 1.04 or 1.05, as with the Japanese, the French, etc.

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