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Complaints about 103
07-17-2008, 10:06 PM,
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RE: Complaints about 103
Silkster53 Wrote:
Ivan Wrote:With all due respect I don't think anyone has objected to criticism, in fact they have asked for it. On numerous occasions they have asked for constructive criticism with examples from play and if possible saved games. Reading the Matrix forum the only thing they seem to have objected to is the over the top hyperbole which does not address the core issues.

With all due respect Ivan, you can use my name. I am the hyperbole king. ;)
I could care less what Matrix objected to. I could care less if I express myself using any illustration, analogy, or hyperbole.
They asked me to accept wholesale a fundamental change to the game I played and loved over the last ten years.

They asked me to jump through hoops to correct their glitches. In my opinion I did not want glitches corrected I wanted the new close assault rules removed.
I was not going to be sucked into the little game of "we can fix that" or "we can do that differently". This could go on forever as I presented case after case for dismantling the new assault rules and the variable visibility rule.

And, believe me. I gave all the constructive criticism that I could. But, as I say over and over, it's not how the various parts of the close assault rules that I want fixed. It is the close assault rules that I want removed.
They had how long, and what you don't understand, in the time to make this change, to one, get it right, and two, to hear over and over that some of us did not want fundamental changes like the close assault rules.

I find "variable visibility" a sham and a shame that does not represent anything in the scale of the game that even resembles realism. And, for those who think I am talking about AT that can remain hidden, you would be wrong. It's the fact that visibility can change dramatically over the course of a game. Unless it is a rainstorm I do not see visibility being reduced from ten hexes to three hexes in the course of a game where visibility was a major factor.
The close assault rules, even without the bugs, do not even come close to the "realism" that was intended. What it did was swing the pendulum from one side to the opposite side.

If it is about what I want, or constructive criticism that I give, I have done so with specific examples?

Now what more, besides my screaming at the top of my lungs, "that they have changed the game itself" can I do to ease your troubled mind?
When my fingertips are practically bruised and bleeding from typing all the "examples" and explaining all of what I believe.

Sheesh. Matrix makes the wrong change and wants to drag out the process of correcting the change so that the changes will be accepted over time, and you object to hyperbole? :chin:
I have removed Matrix from my "favorites" and have no intention of ever visiting their forums again. If that makes you, and them happy, then we all will be happy, eh? :smoke:

Ed, lets be frank about this. At the end of the day this is not about what you want. It is not about what I want. It is not about what any individual player of this game wants no matter how long they have been playing or how much they think they have some sort of ownership of this game. The game belongs to Matrix and they can pretty much do what they want with it. All the versions of this game you have purchased you still have access to and you can play them without alteration at your leisure with people who have like minded views. Then there are other people who would like to see the game grow, improve and develop even if that means some glitches and imperfections along the way. The people in this camp like myself will keep on patching and move along with the changes and adapt. That doesn't make either camp right or wrong we are just doing what we feel is right. What I think is unacceptable is for this game to be held in stasis because one camp does not want to contemplate change. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to patch, are they? At the same time I don't think it's fair to put a gun to someone else's head (metaphorically speaking) and use emotional and over the top language because they happen to like change. You have a choice and I have a choice what we don't have is the right to dictate to others how a game we do not own will develop or not as the case may be. They didn't ask you because you don't own the game. They didn't ask me either that's why I'm not upset about the things I do not like but happy about the things I do like. I hope they continue to develop the game. If I want stasis I will play my old Talsonsoft editions or 1.02.

As a moderator perhaps you should be more moderate? I do not have a troubled mind, thank you.
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Messages In This Thread
Complaints about 103 - by Von Luck - 07-17-2008, 06:41 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Valor - 07-17-2008, 07:36 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Mike Abberton - 07-17-2008, 07:57 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-17-2008, 08:26 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Von Earlmann - 07-18-2008, 04:25 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by K K Rossokolski - 07-17-2008, 09:30 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Ivan - 07-17-2008, 05:32 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by K K Rossokolski - 07-17-2008, 05:44 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-17-2008, 07:54 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Ivan - 07-17-2008, 10:06 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-18-2008, 05:28 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Ivan - 07-18-2008, 07:33 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-18-2008, 07:53 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Ivan - 07-18-2008, 03:50 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-18-2008, 08:10 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Ivan - 07-18-2008, 10:26 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-19-2008, 04:19 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Scud - 07-17-2008, 12:34 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-17-2008, 07:32 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Von Earlmann - 07-17-2008, 08:34 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Chuck10mtn - 07-18-2008, 12:35 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Hawk Kriegsman - 07-18-2008, 12:51 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by K K Rossokolski - 07-18-2008, 06:52 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-18-2008, 07:20 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Ivan - 07-18-2008, 02:07 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Hawk Kriegsman - 07-18-2008, 02:38 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Von Luck - 07-18-2008, 04:55 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Nort - 07-18-2008, 06:11 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Kool Kat - 07-18-2008, 07:21 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Von Earlmann - 07-18-2008, 08:35 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-18-2008, 06:16 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Hawk Kriegsman - 07-18-2008, 08:46 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Steel God - 07-18-2008, 09:20 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Von Earlmann - 07-18-2008, 09:22 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Steel God - 07-18-2008, 10:49 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Chuck10mtn - 07-18-2008, 09:22 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Mike Abberton - 07-19-2008, 12:25 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Steel God - 07-19-2008, 12:14 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Chuck10mtn - 07-19-2008, 01:14 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Hawk Kriegsman - 07-19-2008, 01:37 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Chuck10mtn - 07-19-2008, 01:55 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Mike Abberton - 07-19-2008, 04:28 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Wolfman - 07-19-2008, 06:38 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Cole - 07-19-2008, 08:02 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Ivan - 07-19-2008, 06:26 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-19-2008, 10:35 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Von Earlmann - 07-19-2008, 10:12 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Cole - 07-19-2008, 05:49 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Von Luck - 07-19-2008, 10:41 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Von Luck - 07-20-2008, 07:38 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Herr Straße Laufer - 07-20-2008, 11:49 PM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Ivan - 07-20-2008, 07:55 AM
RE: Complaints about 103 - by Ivan - 07-21-2008, 03:03 AM

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