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HiHi

Logic!? Me!? the well know supporter of Lost causes, Royalist (1642), Reb, Montrose, Harold II etc. as stated elsewhere though, at least my hearts in the right place

The Godwinsons didn't actually put Edward on the throne, he was brought back from exile in Normandy by his half brother Harthacanut, but again, it was the choice of the Moot that Edward took the throne, and in fact Edward wasn't long in exiling the entire Godwin family.

However England needed the Godwinsons more than Edward so they were eventually reinstated, it is reputed that Edward in a moment of pure malice married Earl Godwins daughter Edith just to gloat over the fact that Godwin would never be the Grandfather of a royal heir (Edward was celibate/impotent, or both).

As to the oath breaking, that has long been questioned, there being so many different and contradictory versions prior to 1066, and now largely rests on the evidence from the Bayeux tapestry, which was of course done after the event; William, apart from his dubious claim to the Ducal title was not only an inept general, a thief, a wife-beater and what in this part of the world is known as a ‘Bad egg’ (remember what happened at his Funeral Paul? ... See, we know these things :) ) but also a liar. The Oath taking was probably added to the tapestry to help bolster his claim after his usurpation of the English throne ... so there! :cheeky:

Ricky, please, please don’t give him escape lines like, Good point, the results reflect the truth perfectly, LOL. Paul is as slippery as an Eel, on one hand acknowledging “A nice story Peter, and although factual “, he then wanders off into the realms of Medieval superstitions to bolster his arguments, if you want to see some convoluted logic check out our discussion re William on the Great commanders thread, cop this, making surfs of a free people was a, ‘Good thing’ !? Aghh! :hissy: . Mmmm, I am beginning to think it’s the Norman part of Pauls Sicilian ancestry that that is prompting all this pro William stuff.

A useless snippet re ‘Trial by Combat’, apparently the last recorded case of that in England was in what was known as the Birmingham clocks trial of 1818, :chin: well that’s the story I read anyhow.

All the Best
Peter