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z fire
08-25-2008, 08:40 AM,
#23
RE: z fire
Can a new guy put in a comment here?

I'd have to say that the z-fire is realistic but not realistically accurate. Huh?

What I mean is suppressive fire is and always has been an important tactic in warefare since the first bow and arrow. You don't always, in fact rarely, know what you're shooting at in war. In the "real world" a muzzle flash from a window will result in you putting everything you've got on it. You don't know what it was, you don't know if you got it, but its definately suppressed. That's war. If my enemy chooses to shoot miles beyond where he can see, I'm OK with that, as it usually wastes ammo and gives away his disposition and intent. The downside is that metal flying faster than the speed of sound will kill if it hits something living...again that's war. Ask any combat veteran from WWII on, how many times they saw what they were shooting at vs. how many times they shot in a general direction.

This game we play is very fun and can be pretty realistic, but we have to face the fact that what we see and "know" in the game is different from what you'd see and know in reality. Not that that's wrong or "gamey", just how it is.

My gripe with z-fire is the "spray" issue. I hate it when I have a platoon z-firing at a known emeny position, say 2 to 3 hexes diretly infront of them, to suppress - but nothing hits anywhere near the target hex. Sometimes 3 or 4 hexes 180 degrees off target. Even if I can't see 100 yds in front of me, I know I'm aiming straight ahead - why would my rounds go and land two hexes to my left? This is particularly frustrating if I'm shooting at lanscape feature (building, copse of trees on a hill, etc) that I can see. I could understand my rounds not being anything close to accurate, but why would they land 100 yards left or right of the target hex?

While I'm at yet, I'd also like to express my displeasure with "dong...zing" that seems to drag replays on FOREVER...but I'm still pretty new to all this, so what do I know anway?

GUNSLNGR


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Messages In This Thread
z fire - by Yogi - 08-23-2008, 06:31 PM
RE: z fire - by Vesku - 08-23-2008, 07:17 PM
RE: z fire - by Narwan - 08-23-2008, 08:41 PM
RE: z fire - by Walrus - 08-23-2008, 08:45 PM
RE: z fire - by Narwan - 08-23-2008, 08:53 PM
RE: z fire - by Walrus - 08-23-2008, 09:29 PM
RE: z fire - by Narwan - 08-23-2008, 09:52 PM
RE: z fire - by Cross - 08-23-2008, 10:53 PM
RE: z fire - by jadpanther - 08-24-2008, 12:24 AM
RE: z fire - by retired from gaming - 08-24-2008, 04:55 AM
RE: z fire - by Walrus - 08-24-2008, 10:34 AM
RE: z fire - by Fokkov - 08-24-2008, 07:30 AM
RE: z fire - by Epoletov [SPR]. - 08-24-2008, 08:12 AM
RE: z fire - by shortreengage - 08-24-2008, 10:38 AM
RE: z fire - by Weasel - 08-26-2008, 05:28 AM
RE: z fire - by shortreengage - 08-24-2008, 10:43 AM
RE: z fire - by zeiss - 08-24-2008, 07:17 PM
RE: z fire - by seabolt - 08-24-2008, 11:46 PM
RE: z fire - by Narwan - 08-25-2008, 12:46 AM
RE: z fire - by Krec - 08-25-2008, 04:32 AM
RE: z fire - by Cross - 08-25-2008, 04:53 AM
RE: z fire - by seabolt - 08-25-2008, 05:30 AM
RE: z fire - by retired from gaming - 08-25-2008, 07:24 AM
RE: z fire - by GUNSLNGR - 08-25-2008, 08:40 AM
RE: z fire - by seabolt - 08-25-2008, 08:57 AM
RE: z fire - by Vesku - 08-25-2008, 04:21 PM
RE: z fire - by Walrus - 08-25-2008, 11:07 AM
RE: z fire - by Narwan - 08-25-2008, 06:27 PM
RE: z fire - by GUNSLNGR - 08-26-2008, 07:02 AM
RE: z fire - by zeiss - 08-25-2008, 06:49 PM
RE: z fire - by Vesku - 08-25-2008, 06:51 PM
RE: z fire - by Narwan - 08-25-2008, 07:40 PM
RE: z fire - by Vesku - 08-25-2008, 08:57 PM
RE: z fire - by Walrus - 08-25-2008, 10:38 PM
RE: z fire - by Narwan - 08-25-2008, 09:39 PM
RE: z fire - by Walrus - 08-25-2008, 10:41 PM
RE: z fire - by Vesku - 08-25-2008, 11:55 PM
RE: z fire - by Cross - 08-26-2008, 12:03 AM
RE: z fire - by GUNSLNGR - 08-26-2008, 07:06 AM
RE: z fire - by Narwan - 08-25-2008, 11:26 PM
RE: z fire - by Vesku - 08-26-2008, 12:09 AM
RE: z fire - by seabolt - 08-26-2008, 01:53 AM
RE: z fire - by Epoletov [SPR]. - 08-26-2008, 06:40 AM
RE: z fire - by Jolly Roger - 08-26-2008, 07:22 AM
RE: z fire - by Greybeard - 08-26-2008, 12:59 PM
RE: z fire - by GUNSLNGR - 08-26-2008, 01:46 PM
RE: z fire - by retired from gaming - 08-26-2008, 06:29 PM
RE: z fire - by Walrus - 08-27-2008, 01:58 AM

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