September 8th Discussion

[Stryker]

I think it should be remembered that most Italians (from what I gather) were not that keen on going to war in the first place but hoped Il Duce would deliver a sort of empire on the back of the Germans success without too much pain and hardship, they certainly didn't expect the British army to put up the kind of fight they did early in the war in Africa. The Italians also suffered from having their equipment, arms, tanks, supplies etc. stolen by Rommel to keep the Afrika Korps running at their expense, leaving them no option but to surrender in large numbers.

Peter, your comment about the English is a little harsh, we're not given to rebellion these days and prefer to seeth in silence, those of us with a modicom of intelligence sussed out what was going on quite some time ago.... and the last election was won by the conservatives if you just take the English vote.. .we were let down by our Welsh, N.Irish and Scottish cousins falling prey to the bribes, smoke and mirrors offered by those new labour bastards.. now the Scots have seen the light and are voting in their thousands for the SNP, Brown and his cronies will be left trying to bribe those they've employed in their thousands in made up government jobs which the Tories will abolish.. and the very poor, who'll be given handouts to vote Labour. If these foriegn marxist dictators get in again by any chance, I will be leaving the country (along with the rest of the thinking English) to the illegal immigrants and feckless drunks and idiots who voted them in...I've already bought a house in another country just ready for such a move :-)

FWIW, I don't believe there is such a thing as a British identity any more - only in the history books, I certainly do not believe I am European, the English are buggered from inside and out, but I still scream and shout for the English Rugby team when they play and sing "Jerusalem" and "swing low sweet chariot" as if my life depends on it :) (Our football team are just funny, and the cricket team are only good when we have a south african running it.. ha ha)

Anyway Peter, aren't you English? :whis:

( I re-read this and am still not sure it's coherent or sensible, but I'll post it anyway - just for the sake of discussion)