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Shoot & Scoot
01-14-2009, 11:18 PM,
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RE: Shoot & Scoot
Actually after reading many books, watching documentaries and the like I would say that shoot and scoot tactics were used in WW2.

Tank destroyer tactics actually were based on this principal.

The battlefield as alsway been about move and shoot, move and shoot.

The stationary target is a vulnerable target.

Factor in that a turn is anywhere from 6 minutes (per the rulebook) to 30 minutes (per some scenario designers) and a unit has plenty of time to take a few shots and move into hiding.

Since CS is an IGOUGO game it can NEVER accurately have simulaneous movement and combat resolution.

To all those that want that I would point them in the direction of Combat Missions.

Now lets look at a practical game application.

An infantry unit in the woods is approached by 3 infantry units from 3 different facings.

Assume here that opp fire works perfectly.

first unit advances; bang opp fire

second unit advances from a different side = bang opp fire

third unit advances from yet another side = no opp fire

Realistic? No probably not in totality. Most likely a unit is such a position would be in a hedgehog type formation shooting at all three oncoming platoons.

What to do with the game engine?

Here is my advice.

1: Remove OPP fire from having to need action points.

2: Halve all OPP fire in terms off effectiveness

3: Increase the percent chance that Opp fire happens.

This would give a better feel for simultaneous action; it would accurately represent a unit conducting reactive fire as opposed to active fire & and it would make all units vulnerable to some sort of possible OPP fire at all times.

or if that can't be done leave it along

and of course make alternate opp fire optional

Thanx!

Hawk
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Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-14-2009, 10:08 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Huib Versloot - 01-14-2009, 10:31 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by junk2drive - 01-14-2009, 10:42 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Otto von Blotto - 01-14-2009, 11:08 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-14-2009, 11:18 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by zeiss - 01-15-2009, 01:43 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-15-2009, 01:17 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Stryker - 01-15-2009, 01:45 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-15-2009, 05:31 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by von Manstein - 01-15-2009, 05:38 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-15-2009, 08:12 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-15-2009, 07:59 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by K K Rossokolski - 01-15-2009, 08:18 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-15-2009, 08:35 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by K K Rossokolski - 01-15-2009, 09:50 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-15-2009, 10:15 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-15-2009, 01:19 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-15-2009, 12:15 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-15-2009, 08:43 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Adolf Vahringer - 01-15-2009, 11:48 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-15-2009, 08:07 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by FM WarB - 01-15-2009, 08:44 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-15-2009, 08:54 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-15-2009, 10:34 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-19-2009, 12:01 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-16-2009, 06:08 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Glint - 01-16-2009, 07:20 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-16-2009, 09:09 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jumbo - 01-16-2009, 12:30 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by FM WarB - 01-16-2009, 03:21 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-16-2009, 08:45 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Valor - 01-17-2009, 01:15 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-17-2009, 06:18 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-17-2009, 06:35 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-17-2009, 06:55 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-17-2009, 07:07 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-17-2009, 07:24 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-18-2009, 05:59 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-19-2009, 12:42 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Mike Abberton - 01-17-2009, 10:52 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-18-2009, 06:16 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-18-2009, 09:16 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Huib Versloot - 01-18-2009, 09:49 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by FM WarB - 01-18-2009, 07:21 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-18-2009, 07:35 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by The Rattler - 01-18-2009, 04:29 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-18-2009, 09:45 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by The Rattler - 01-18-2009, 10:32 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Huib Versloot - 01-19-2009, 12:06 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-19-2009, 12:59 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-19-2009, 01:53 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-19-2009, 02:17 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by junk2drive - 01-19-2009, 03:11 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-19-2009, 10:12 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-20-2009, 02:17 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Valor - 01-20-2009, 02:49 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-20-2009, 05:28 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-20-2009, 06:07 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 06:14 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-20-2009, 08:54 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-20-2009, 08:01 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Valor - 01-21-2009, 08:58 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-20-2009, 06:29 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 06:37 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-20-2009, 07:53 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 07:56 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-20-2009, 08:02 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 08:20 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-20-2009, 08:05 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 08:20 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-20-2009, 08:40 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Kool Kat - 01-21-2009, 04:42 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Adolf Vahringer - 01-21-2009, 10:27 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by John Given - 01-23-2009, 10:02 PM

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