Shoot & Scoot

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With regards to various weapons systems (tanks & AT guns) being able to inflict damage or losses to certain targets at long and even short ranges from time to time does seem quite unrealistic and not historically accurate to me. But as Hawk previously mentioned. A Tank being killed in this game does not necessarily have to mean it's armor has been penetrated. There are positively other ways to render a tank useless. However first and foremost the ability for a given weapon system to kill any given tank in this game should be it's ability to breach or smash apart that given tanks armor IMO. In this game I believe I'm seeing to many tank commanders being killed and tank tracks being hit so to speak. IMO Part of this problem with so called long range kills comes from what I believe the original designers either overlooked or intentionally did in order to not bog the game down to much. What the designers overlooked was that given attack values should also proportionately drop off as range to given target increases because of actual combat accuracy attacking gun. What we have now with many weapon system is just the attacking values dropping off because of the guns penetration performance over given ranges. Here's just one example.

Present German Panther tank Hard Attack Values:
Range in hexes
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 (range)
36 35 34 32 30 28 26 23 20 17 15 13 (attack value)

Now the actual accuracy of the 75mm L/70 is as follows:
Range in meters
500m 1000m 1500m 2000m 2500m 3000m (range)
100% 97% 72% 49% 29% 18% (accuracy)

Penetration performance of 75mm L/70 vs armor plate set at 30 degrees
100 meters 500 meters 1000 meters 1500 meters 2000 meters
138mm 124mm 111mm 99mm 89mm

Now if actual combat accuracy was factored in with penetration performance. This is what might expect to see instead.
Range in hexes
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 (range)
37 35 33 30 25 20 16 12 9 6 5 4 (attack value)

A possible revised value that might be considered.
Range in hexes
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 (range)
37 35 33 31 27 24 21 17 14 12 10 8 (attack value)

This is just a formula and I'm not saying that attack values should be changed. Only that the TS original designers as outstanding as they are. Just seemed to have missed or intentionally missed a few minor details with regards to attack values IMO ... Not to mention a good number of defense values.

Comments are appreciated