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Shoot & Scoot
01-18-2009, 09:49 PM,
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RE: Shoot & Scoot
umbro Wrote:Greg:

I suppose we shall simply have to agree to disagree on what are "historical values". It seems that you believe them to be the values that one can obtain by lining up two pieces of equipment and measuring: range, penetration, chance of a hit and armour thickness, slope etc.

I would take that as a starting point (step A), and then line up forces from known engagements and see if historical results are possible. If they are not, then I would tweak the values until the historical results were possible. I would then attribute the tweaks to intangibles that the measurements in step A were not able to account for.

My guess is that the latter is the approach used by the original game designers, which is one reason why the values don't (exactly) match the testbench numbers.

umbro

This is more or less how Jason and I re-did the Dutch 1940 forces for the last update. Somewhere along the line the original makers went all wrong (due to lack of historical and factual knowledge probably).

Huib
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Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-14-2009, 10:08 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Huib Versloot - 01-14-2009, 10:31 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by junk2drive - 01-14-2009, 10:42 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Otto von Blotto - 01-14-2009, 11:08 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-14-2009, 11:18 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by zeiss - 01-15-2009, 01:43 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-15-2009, 01:17 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Stryker - 01-15-2009, 01:45 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-15-2009, 05:31 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by von Manstein - 01-15-2009, 05:38 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-15-2009, 08:12 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-15-2009, 07:59 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by K K Rossokolski - 01-15-2009, 08:18 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-15-2009, 08:35 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by K K Rossokolski - 01-15-2009, 09:50 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-15-2009, 10:15 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-15-2009, 01:19 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-15-2009, 12:15 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-15-2009, 08:43 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Adolf Vahringer - 01-15-2009, 11:48 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-15-2009, 08:07 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by FM WarB - 01-15-2009, 08:44 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-15-2009, 08:54 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-15-2009, 10:34 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-19-2009, 12:01 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-16-2009, 06:08 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Glint - 01-16-2009, 07:20 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-16-2009, 09:09 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jumbo - 01-16-2009, 12:30 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by FM WarB - 01-16-2009, 03:21 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-16-2009, 08:45 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Valor - 01-17-2009, 01:15 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-17-2009, 06:18 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-17-2009, 06:35 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-17-2009, 06:55 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-17-2009, 07:07 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-17-2009, 07:24 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-18-2009, 05:59 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-19-2009, 12:42 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Mike Abberton - 01-17-2009, 10:52 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-18-2009, 06:16 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by RADO - 01-18-2009, 09:16 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Huib Versloot - 01-18-2009, 09:49 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by FM WarB - 01-18-2009, 07:21 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-18-2009, 07:35 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by The Rattler - 01-18-2009, 04:29 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-18-2009, 09:45 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by The Rattler - 01-18-2009, 10:32 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Huib Versloot - 01-19-2009, 12:06 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-19-2009, 12:59 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-19-2009, 01:53 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by umbro - 01-19-2009, 02:17 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by junk2drive - 01-19-2009, 03:11 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-19-2009, 10:12 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-20-2009, 02:17 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Valor - 01-20-2009, 02:49 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-20-2009, 05:28 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-20-2009, 06:07 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 06:14 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Gordons HQ - 01-20-2009, 08:54 PM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-20-2009, 08:01 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Valor - 01-21-2009, 08:58 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-20-2009, 06:29 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 06:37 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-20-2009, 07:53 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 07:56 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Hawk Kriegsman - 01-20-2009, 08:02 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 08:20 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-20-2009, 08:05 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Jason Petho - 01-20-2009, 08:20 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Herr Straße Laufer - 01-20-2009, 08:40 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Kool Kat - 01-21-2009, 04:42 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by Adolf Vahringer - 01-21-2009, 10:27 AM
RE: Shoot & Scoot - by John Given - 01-23-2009, 10:02 PM

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