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Can the Soviets win in Kursk?
02-13-2009, 08:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-13-2009, 08:34 AM by Volcano Man.)
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RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk?
DicedT Wrote:The Alt campaign is not balanced for PBEM, Volcano Man. A good test for balance is whether you can look at a game you lost and say, "If I had done this instead of that, I would have won."

In the regular campaign, the Germans can penetrate all the fortified lines on the first day. In the Alt campaign, they penetrate the lines and then either storm the gaps in the anti-tank ditches (easy to disrupt and assault the Morale D Soviet defenders), or they use their plentiful engineers to breach the ditches. Either way, I don't see what the Soviets can do. If they don't retreat from their trenches, they did. If they fight in the open, they die.


Well thanks for the definitive condemnation towards PBEM play balance.

Quote:If you know someone who thinks they can win as the Soviets, let me know. I'm happy to play them in a PBEM and see if I'm wrong.

Yes, sure, you can play me. But it has to be a team game because I don't have the time to play the whole thing by myself at the moment.

The question is, when did you *start* the campaign? It has been changed many times over. You could have started and played a year ago, but it must have definitely been at least a month ago unless you are in the habit of playing full campaigns in a matter of weeks.

As an example, you could have played the campaign before changes to all AT gun unit defense, which particularly help the Russians, or you could have played it before the terrain protection levels and movement levels were altered. You could have also played it before the recovery rates were adjusted or the most recent change where ALL German Panzer Divisions (except for 11th) and PzG Divisions (except for GD) were lowered in quality from A to B. As a matter of fact, unless you started the campaign a couple of weeks ago then you most likely did play it before these changes.

The point is, it is a work in progress (it is on its 18th version to be exact) and because of this, it is constantly changing so one observation as to play balance is not necessarily completely valid as an end all, definitive verdict.

That said, yes, I can probably gather up a team of willing Russian players to go against you in the latest version and see what happens. You could of course get a team for the Germans as well if you like. Just let me know. It certainly would not have a stellar turn rate though...
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Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by dto - 02-12-2009, 08:27 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Krak - 02-12-2009, 09:49 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Mr Grumpy - 02-12-2009, 05:15 PM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by von Nev - 02-12-2009, 05:15 PM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Krak - 02-12-2009, 06:51 PM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by dto - 02-13-2009, 08:16 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Volcano Man - 02-13-2009, 08:31 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by James Ward - 02-13-2009, 11:46 PM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Marquo - 02-12-2009, 10:48 PM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by James Ward - 02-12-2009, 11:53 PM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by dto - 02-13-2009, 12:41 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Elxaime - 02-13-2009, 05:41 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Krak - 02-13-2009, 05:56 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Turner - 02-13-2009, 06:41 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Krak - 02-13-2009, 08:01 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by dto - 02-13-2009, 08:45 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Mr Grumpy - 02-13-2009, 10:00 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Krak - 02-13-2009, 08:54 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Krak - 02-13-2009, 11:20 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by James Ward - 02-14-2009, 02:12 PM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Gordons HQ - 02-16-2009, 02:32 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Mr Grumpy - 02-16-2009, 03:08 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Mr Grumpy - 02-16-2009, 08:57 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Gordons HQ - 02-17-2009, 05:14 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Mr Grumpy - 02-17-2009, 06:30 AM
RE: Can the Soviets win in Kursk? - by Al - 02-17-2009, 10:33 AM

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