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Point Values
02-15-2009, 11:05 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-15-2009, 11:27 PM by Huib Versloot.)
RE: Point Values
Von Earlmann Wrote:Ed,
Some of the Volksgrenadier divisions were also formed from conscripts of which most didn't even speak German.....can you imagine the chaos in battle when trying to issue orders :-)......I suspect these factors had a lot to do with poor morale

This is true, but never for the whole division. As far as I know there were no Volksgrenadier divisions that suffered as a total from this. Sometimes ethnic Poles where pressed into service and they would defect at the first chance, German speaking French or Luxembourg soldiers (ala they did speak German but were not motivated ofcourse).
I have noticed that most VGDs performed quite well. I have looked particularly at those in the Ardennes. They held themselves rather good in the Bulge: the 352d, the 62nd, the 79th, the 12th, the 212th, the 26th, the 18th (Schnee Eifel) and even the 326th and 277th. These latter I'd always thought of that they failed bitterly near Hofen and Rocherath, until you look more closely how little they actually had available to attack with in the first place.

Coming back to the game: It is allright to have Volksgrenadier divisions organisation (3 Rgts with 2 Batallions each) in the org editor. The separate "platoon" is more questionable: it should be called "Stg44 platoon" I think The forming of Volksgrenadier divisions just happened to be around the same time as the introduction of the Sturmgewehr. In the beginning a Volksgrenadier company really had quite a few Stg44. After a while already the Stg44 became rarer and often only the squad or platoon leader had one.
Late war Fallschirmjäger also got the Stg44 and I wonder if that is represented in the game.

This is a nice link about the weapons of a VGD:
http://www.62vgd.com/VGDDat/image007.GIF
It shows the theoretical allocation of Stg44 and rifles.
This is the parent site:
http://www.62vgd.com
Very interesting but it is in German, some in english

Went a bit off topic but I find these Stg44 rifles very interesting. I wish I found one sometime... maybe next week...
Huib
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Point Values - by RADO - 02-09-2009, 12:02 PM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-09-2009, 12:39 PM
RE: Point Values - by RADO - 02-09-2009, 02:05 PM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-09-2009, 02:52 PM
RE: Point Values - by junk2drive - 02-09-2009, 02:58 PM
RE: Point Values - by Huib Versloot - 02-09-2009, 10:46 PM
RE: Point Values - by RADO - 02-10-2009, 04:23 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-10-2009, 08:28 AM
RE: Point Values - by RADO - 02-10-2009, 09:12 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-10-2009, 11:40 AM
RE: Point Values - by Huib Versloot - 02-10-2009, 09:09 PM
RE: Point Values - by Mike Abberton - 02-11-2009, 12:23 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-11-2009, 01:33 AM
RE: Point Values - by Huib Versloot - 02-11-2009, 06:32 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-11-2009, 06:46 AM
RE: Point Values - by Hawk Kriegsman - 02-11-2009, 07:15 AM
RE: Point Values - by Huib Versloot - 02-11-2009, 07:04 PM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-11-2009, 07:57 AM
RE: Point Values - by Huib Versloot - 02-11-2009, 07:49 PM
RE: Point Values - by RADO - 02-11-2009, 02:58 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-11-2009, 03:22 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-11-2009, 07:31 PM
RE: Point Values - by umbro - 02-11-2009, 07:01 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-11-2009, 08:42 AM
RE: Point Values - by umbro - 02-11-2009, 08:50 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-11-2009, 09:04 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-11-2009, 10:43 AM
RE: Point Values - by umbro - 02-11-2009, 01:37 PM
RE: Point Values - by Mr. Guberman - 02-11-2009, 12:11 PM
RE: Point Values - by junk2drive - 02-11-2009, 12:54 PM
RE: Point Values - by Mr. Guberman - 02-11-2009, 01:34 PM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-11-2009, 02:21 PM
RE: Point Values - by umbro - 02-11-2009, 03:04 PM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-11-2009, 04:09 PM
RE: Point Values - by umbro - 02-11-2009, 11:45 PM
RE: Point Values - by Mike Abberton - 02-12-2009, 12:15 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-12-2009, 08:08 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-12-2009, 08:12 AM
RE: Point Values - by Mike Abberton - 02-12-2009, 02:29 PM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-12-2009, 02:53 PM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-13-2009, 01:14 AM
RE: Point Values - by Kool Kat - 02-13-2009, 01:58 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-13-2009, 02:29 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-13-2009, 07:01 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-13-2009, 07:08 AM
RE: Point Values - by Kool Kat - 02-13-2009, 07:48 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-13-2009, 07:50 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-12-2009, 06:23 AM
RE: Point Values - by umbro - 02-12-2009, 08:01 AM
RE: Point Values - by Huib Versloot - 02-12-2009, 08:24 AM
RE: Point Values - by Steel God - 02-12-2009, 03:57 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-12-2009, 06:46 AM
RE: Point Values - by Glint - 02-12-2009, 06:15 AM
RE: Point Values - by RADO - 02-12-2009, 07:46 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-12-2009, 08:03 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-12-2009, 08:34 AM
RE: Point Values - by Von Earlmann - 02-12-2009, 08:33 AM
RE: Point Values - by RADO - 02-13-2009, 08:18 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-13-2009, 08:30 AM
RE: Point Values - by Valor - 02-14-2009, 12:04 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-13-2009, 09:03 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-13-2009, 09:14 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-13-2009, 10:36 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-13-2009, 11:20 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-13-2009, 09:19 AM
RE: Point Values - by 1925frank - 02-13-2009, 09:36 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-13-2009, 10:32 AM
RE: Point Values - by RADO - 02-14-2009, 04:27 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-14-2009, 06:54 AM
RE: Point Values - by Valor - 02-14-2009, 07:42 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-14-2009, 08:10 AM
RE: Point Values - by Mike Abberton - 02-14-2009, 08:29 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-14-2009, 08:37 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-14-2009, 09:29 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-14-2009, 09:49 AM
RE: Point Values - by umbro - 02-14-2009, 09:29 AM
RE: Point Values - by Mike Abberton - 02-15-2009, 11:50 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-14-2009, 10:02 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-14-2009, 11:44 AM
RE: Point Values - by K K Rossokolski - 02-14-2009, 12:50 PM
RE: Point Values - by junk2drive - 02-14-2009, 12:30 PM
RE: Point Values - by Glint - 02-14-2009, 10:05 PM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-14-2009, 11:36 PM
RE: Point Values - by Huib Versloot - 02-15-2009, 02:10 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-15-2009, 04:18 AM
RE: Point Values - by Huib Versloot - 02-15-2009, 05:33 AM
RE: Point Values - by Hawk Kriegsman - 02-15-2009, 11:13 PM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-16-2009, 01:34 AM
RE: Point Values - by keif149 - 02-15-2009, 01:52 AM
RE: Point Values - by umbro - 02-15-2009, 03:03 AM
RE: Point Values - by Jason Petho - 02-15-2009, 04:09 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-15-2009, 04:29 AM
RE: Point Values - by Glint - 02-15-2009, 03:06 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-15-2009, 04:28 AM
RE: Point Values - by junk2drive - 02-15-2009, 04:36 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-15-2009, 07:57 AM
RE: Point Values - by Glint - 02-15-2009, 04:39 AM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-15-2009, 07:56 AM
RE: Point Values - by Von Earlmann - 02-15-2009, 09:35 AM
RE: Point Values - by Huib Versloot - 02-15-2009, 11:05 PM
RE: Point Values - by Herr Straße Laufer - 02-16-2009, 01:27 AM
RE: Point Values - by RADO - 02-17-2009, 04:30 AM
RE: Point Values - by Von Luck - 02-17-2009, 05:45 AM

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