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Is it just me?
04-02-2009, 09:10 AM,
#17
RE: Is it just me?
Looks like we are at complete opposite ends here. The last stat I would drop is infantry. In my view, and in my gaming experience, infantry is far too easy to deal with. I wouldn't mind seeing it beefed up.

If a squad you wanted to finish off with a squad of your own, and I presume from close range, you forgot to achieve one of two things (and you really need only one, and it's not hard to do); either you suppress them to retreat status or you drain it's return fire until it's depleted.
"Shooting up" a squad with a lot of low percentage shots isn't going to achieve much more than pin it. Off course it's unhealthy to close in on them with other infantry under such conditions.

Did you have the infantry set to 50% in that game too btw? And in the game with MG42? Since I've never seen this 'huge' firepower or the supermen you mention I wonder if your not mistaking two things. That in fact you're not seeing 'huge' firepower but 'huge' weakness in your units that got engaged. If you set infantry at 50% then yes, the squad you drop next to that enemy squad will appear to get a lashing. Which really makes me wonder, on the one hand you complain about alleged supermen and at the same time you complain about how easy your own troops die. Which is it?

Same with the MG42 incident. From your phrasing I take it it was a single MG42 unit. So you engage a squad of 10 that is presumed to be spread out over roughly a 50 by 50 area. I also assume they weren't running at full speed so were mindful of their surroundings (and making some use of the cover that even 'clear' terrain offers). If you enage them from 200 yards distance you'd have a sizeable angle from left to right to 'cover' them all. It would be hard to get a bead on two guys at once, let alone hit more than one or two, with a single burst. And you're firing at Gurkha's, elite troops, from short range. Off course they'll spot you after two bursts. Off course they'll return fire as fast they can, that's survival mode kicking in, especially from close range as most of the squad aren't personally engaged yet after two bursts. You might get away with that against low quality troops as the resulting suppression from the firing of two bursts may cause their spotting ability to drop to the point they won't see you and won't return fire. But against elite troops like gurkha's I'm not suprised at all by their respons. Mg's on their own are bad ambush weapons for the simple reason that it's just one barrel. You can't aim 1 barrel at 10 guys at the same time who are spread out over a 50m area. If you ambush with another infantry squad it would be much more deadly as they can each pick their own target, 10 barrels firing at 10 guys spread over a 50m area. Works far better.

Finally, mmg's and hmg's are crewserved weapons. That means the guys equiping it are close together. In other words the game assumes that the squad of 10 men is spread out over the 50m area while the 3(?) men crew of the mmg is concentrated at one spot of that 50m area. If the crewserved weapon takes damage then the chance of more than one casualty are as a result higher than it would be for an infantry squad (which makes the crew served weapons especially vulnerable to instant death if infantry is set at 50%). Same applies to gun crews for example. That's why you will occassionaly see an entire pak crew or mortar crew die from a single hit while similar incidents for squads are much, much rarer.

Narwan[/i][/b]


Messages In This Thread
Is it just me? - by Weasel - 03-28-2009, 04:42 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Steel God - 03-28-2009, 05:22 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 03-28-2009, 11:18 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by wulfir - 03-28-2009, 03:54 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Vesku - 03-28-2009, 04:01 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 03-28-2009, 05:00 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Cross - 03-29-2009, 12:23 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by seabolt - 03-29-2009, 08:47 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by klanx171 - 03-31-2009, 08:52 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Narwan - 03-31-2009, 11:50 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 04-01-2009, 05:19 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Alby - 04-01-2009, 11:16 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Vesku - 04-01-2009, 02:32 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Narwan - 04-02-2009, 01:37 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 04-02-2009, 03:40 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 04-02-2009, 03:42 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Narwan - 04-02-2009, 09:10 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Vesku - 04-02-2009, 03:46 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Narwan - 04-03-2009, 06:57 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by klanx171 - 04-02-2009, 06:20 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Narwan - 04-03-2009, 07:08 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 04-03-2009, 07:31 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Narwan - 04-03-2009, 09:27 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by zeiss - 04-03-2009, 05:41 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 04-04-2009, 04:00 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 04-04-2009, 04:09 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Narwan - 04-05-2009, 01:29 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 04-05-2009, 02:32 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Narwan - 04-05-2009, 09:15 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 04-05-2009, 09:32 AM
RE: Is it just me? - by Narwan - 04-05-2009, 12:00 PM
RE: Is it just me? - by Weasel - 04-05-2009, 12:32 PM
Closed - by Weasel - 04-05-2009, 12:58 PM

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