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Soviet reconnaissance, artillery, and Air defence
07-24-2009, 04:55 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-24-2009, 04:56 AM by PincerDK.)
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RE: Soviet reconnaissance, artillery, and Air defence
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These units are not dong reconnaisance per se. What they are doing is acting as an "Advance Guard" for the higher formation behind them (dansk: "Forspids"). They are meant to provide march security against any ambushes or act as an outpost in a defensive line (dansk: "Indledende Kamp"). They are there in order that the larger unit behind them does not become decisively engaged before the commander of that unit chooses to do so (dansk: "Kommandøren bevarer sin handlefrihed"). None of this is really relevant to DF85 since you can´t really task organize WAPA units and you enerally can´r break them down to company sized units either. At most you can send out a Tank Battalion as a "Reconnaissance Detachment" and let the rest of the regiment/division trail by a few hexes or you can reinforce your divisional reconnaisance with a battery of SP-ATGMs on BRDMs.

The danish word for "Advance Guard" wouldn't that be "fortrop?"
I'm still civilian until next year, so just curious ? :)

But does that mean that the different units (Recon group etc.) complement the regimental advance guard or do you mean they replace THE actual battalion sized advance guard?

Well actually I was thinking of in the game, instead of having three recon coy's in the recon battalion, composed of 2 BMP coy's (12 units in each) and 1 BRDM2 coy (13 units)
then instead have the two BMP coy's renamed to 1st and 2nd Reconnaissance group and the BRDM-2 coy renamed to 3rd Reconnaissance group, and instead of having a whole BRDM coy, then divide that into 2 platoon sized separate recon patrols with 6 BRDM-2 in the first SRP and 7 in the second.
That seems more realistic IMO and you still have the same numbers.

But that's what I thought how you could organize the recon battalion.
The manual also seems to suggest that you can organise the BMP coy in the same way, by having one 1 SRP composed of 3 BMP's and 1 BRM, one SRP composed of 3 BMP's, and one SRP composed of 3 T-XX.
The only problem (in the game) was that you couldn't combine different units (T-XX and BMP-BRM)

Another question I asked to Volcano Man about information regarding soviet organisation?

"If for example I needed to know how many units there are in a soviet Motorized Rifle Battalion, what source could you recommend I could use? which one do you use? no matter if it is Danube Front or Steel Beasts.
I have already a long list of sources where Soviet organisation is showed:

FM-100-60
FM-100-2-3
FM-100-2-1
ArmouredAcorn.com
ST-100-7 OPFOR Battlebook

Some questions I have about these sources.

1. Is it better to have sources about Soviet Organisation before 1991 or after 1991? I know after the Cold War, much information from the Soviet Army was published.
2. Does anyone on this forum know where that canadian on Armoured Acorn has his sources from?"
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RE: Soviet reconnaissance, artillery, and Air defence - by PincerDK - 07-24-2009, 04:55 AM

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