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Bolt out of the Blue 4.4
08-13-2009, 03:14 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-13-2009, 04:23 PM by Aaron.)
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4
Wheres the info come from, ive been gathering it the last 2 years and have a couple hundred MBs of files and more from books plus when i built each country i believe i had about 2 people from each country with good knowledge of their militarys help me out, Michal for one has been a great help and not just with the graphics, i actually read some stuff posted on the Internet that had his name on it before i even met him. I think the only 2 countries i didnt find someone to talk to was the Czechs and Belgium.I have so much info did u know in Belgium they spoke 2 languages, well i know which units spoke what :P

Flemish: 1st, 4th and 10th Mechanized Brigades
French: 7th Mechanized and 12th Motorized Brigades
Mixed French and Flemish units: 17th Armoured Brigade

If anyone ever wants to build their own scenario or just wants the info for their own enjoyment. dont be afraid to ask,ive got some stuff that will take u way past what u need for this game.

And to HPS i already have great info on the Italians, Romanians, Yugoslavians and the rest of the Austrians, (this is a Hint to ya, u can do it) the Greeks and Turks are a mess....

Aaron

As for the recon Bns i have about 8 different setups but i found in Soldat und Technic in 88 that CGF had the T-72 layout. As posted on the other thread these are some of the known ways, and by looking at the equipment listings out of Tomsk and Lenskii books i compared it to these and decide which one was best compared to the equipment listed and that was the one i used for that division.

In the 1970s and before the recon battalion was a fairly settled beast, i.e. HQ, tank coy with three platoons of PT-76,
recce coy with three platoons of BRDM, depth exploitation company with three platoons. But in the 1980s this all went to hell!
Here are some options/variations I am aware of...
recce coy with 3xBRM-1K, 4xBMP-1/2, 46 persons
OR
recce coy with 3xmedium tank, 3xBRM-1K, 4xBMP-1/2, 55 persons
OR
recce coy with 5xPT-76, 7xBMP-1/2, 60 persons (yes Pt-76s, in the Leningrad District u had in some cases whole divisions equip with PT-76)
OR
recce coy with 10xBMP-1/2, 70 persons
OR
recce coy with 1xBRM-1 as HQ vehicle, 3xmedium tanks, 6xBMP-1/-2, 66 persons
COMBINED WITH SOME FORM OF DEPTH RECCE COMPANY such as...
depth recce coy with 10xBMP-1/-2, 77 persons
OR
depth recce coy with 7xBMP-1/-2, 2xBTR-60/70/80, 85 persons
OR
depth recce coy with 1xBRDM-2U, 7xBRDM-2, 6xBTR-60/70-80, 92 persons
OR
depth recce coy with 11xBTR-60/70/80, 93 persons
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Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-21-2009, 12:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-21-2009, 04:55 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 07-21-2009, 09:12 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-21-2009, 09:48 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-21-2009, 10:47 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 12:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-22-2009, 12:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Mike Bowen - 07-21-2009, 10:39 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 07-21-2009, 11:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-21-2009, 11:32 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-22-2009, 04:40 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 04:50 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Zemke - 08-02-2009, 08:04 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-22-2009, 05:00 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 07-22-2009, 06:19 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 06:28 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-22-2009, 08:31 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-23-2009, 03:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-23-2009, 04:47 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-23-2009, 04:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by westkent5097 - 07-24-2009, 07:31 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by PincerDK - 07-24-2009, 08:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-24-2009, 03:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-24-2009, 05:42 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-24-2009, 05:49 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-25-2009, 09:04 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-26-2009, 01:20 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-29-2009, 02:40 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-29-2009, 03:11 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-29-2009, 03:20 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-29-2009, 04:09 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-29-2009, 04:47 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-29-2009, 06:40 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-01-2009, 04:57 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-04-2009, 03:26 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-13-2009, 04:13 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Epoletov [SPR]. - 08-13-2009, 04:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-13-2009, 05:05 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by PincerDK - 08-13-2009, 07:05 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-13-2009, 03:14 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-13-2009, 03:31 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 08-14-2009, 12:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Scar - 08-14-2009, 03:31 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-16-2009, 05:26 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-19-2009, 04:52 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 08-20-2009, 07:59 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 08-21-2009, 01:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-21-2009, 01:36 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 08-21-2009, 02:09 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 08-21-2009, 02:30 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-21-2009, 03:12 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-23-2009, 07:11 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-23-2009, 09:41 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-25-2009, 01:37 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-25-2009, 07:12 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-25-2009, 05:22 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 08-25-2009, 11:42 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 08-26-2009, 12:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-26-2009, 03:26 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 08-26-2009, 05:20 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-26-2009, 07:49 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-26-2009, 03:37 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-26-2009, 03:54 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-27-2009, 03:52 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-27-2009, 07:11 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Mike Bowen - 08-27-2009, 10:52 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-28-2009, 02:46 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-28-2009, 06:45 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by GUIGUITZA - 08-29-2009, 04:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-29-2009, 05:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by GUIGUITZA - 08-29-2009, 06:14 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-29-2009, 06:34 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 09-05-2009, 03:09 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-05-2009, 02:09 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-07-2009, 07:52 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-09-2009, 04:24 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-10-2009, 01:09 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by zed369 - 09-10-2009, 06:52 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-10-2009, 03:10 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-11-2009, 10:27 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-11-2009, 02:55 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hadge - 09-11-2009, 10:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-11-2009, 10:29 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-11-2009, 04:38 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-11-2009, 04:43 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-11-2009, 04:54 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-13-2009, 02:08 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-12-2009, 12:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 09-12-2009, 01:41 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-12-2009, 04:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-12-2009, 05:29 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Lowlander - 09-13-2009, 10:58 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-16-2009, 01:30 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-13-2009, 11:34 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-16-2009, 05:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-17-2009, 04:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-18-2009, 03:57 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-18-2009, 04:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 09-18-2009, 05:39 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-18-2009, 04:34 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-18-2009, 04:45 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-18-2009, 05:10 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-18-2009, 05:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-19-2009, 05:15 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-19-2009, 05:46 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 09-19-2009, 06:11 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-20-2009, 03:47 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-20-2009, 03:58 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-22-2009, 05:16 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-23-2009, 03:39 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 09-24-2009, 07:39 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 09-21-2009, 01:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-21-2009, 03:58 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-22-2009, 04:49 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-22-2009, 05:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by greg - 09-23-2009, 04:44 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-23-2009, 05:02 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by greg - 09-23-2009, 05:55 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-23-2009, 05:57 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-23-2009, 04:54 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-23-2009, 05:12 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-23-2009, 03:31 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 09-23-2009, 06:31 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 09-24-2009, 07:41 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 09-24-2009, 06:38 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-24-2009, 03:25 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 09-24-2009, 09:09 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-24-2009, 07:34 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-24-2009, 09:44 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-24-2009, 10:57 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-24-2009, 11:15 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-24-2009, 11:26 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 09-25-2009, 12:01 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-25-2009, 03:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-25-2009, 04:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-25-2009, 05:09 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-25-2009, 03:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Kuriltai - 09-25-2009, 08:14 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-04-2009, 02:41 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 10-03-2009, 08:25 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-04-2009, 02:19 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 10-04-2009, 04:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-04-2009, 06:04 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 10-14-2009, 12:24 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-14-2009, 01:13 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 10-14-2009, 01:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-14-2009, 05:43 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-14-2009, 06:22 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-14-2009, 01:20 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-15-2009, 01:15 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-16-2009, 04:45 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-16-2009, 05:06 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-16-2009, 05:47 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 10-28-2009, 08:19 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Taffy6 - 10-30-2009, 02:45 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 05:29 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 10-31-2009, 09:15 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 09:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 10:23 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Taffy6 - 10-31-2009, 12:15 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 01:17 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 10-31-2009, 05:25 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 06:12 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 10-31-2009, 10:20 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-01-2009, 03:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 11-01-2009, 07:50 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Elxaime - 11-08-2009, 02:59 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 11-08-2009, 07:25 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-09-2009, 05:21 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-09-2009, 08:23 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-09-2009, 11:53 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Elxaime - 11-13-2009, 08:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-13-2009, 10:12 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-14-2009, 06:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-14-2009, 10:32 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 11-15-2009, 07:56 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-16-2009, 04:30 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 11-16-2009, 04:51 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Taffy6 - 11-17-2009, 03:39 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 11-17-2009, 04:02 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-17-2009, 04:46 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 11-17-2009, 05:35 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-17-2009, 04:44 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-17-2009, 05:19 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-20-2009, 03:45 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-20-2009, 08:22 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-18-2009, 02:18 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-20-2009, 08:34 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 12-02-2009, 04:35 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 12-11-2009, 05:44 AM

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