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[von Schwarze]

>>>If we look at Barbarossa. The Germans attacked from June 22 to early Sept in AGC IIRC. They then halted. I suspect one (of many perhaps)reason may have been because the Panzers needed some R&R. Not an unreasonable proposition to assume they were down to 50% Strength and Effectiveness. They resumed attacking again in October (some never stopped and were diverted to Kiev). Again saying they might have refitted back to 80% Strength and 80% Effectiveness might not seem unreasonable. Yet their rest period was well short of 100 days, and this at the end of a tenuous supply line after some very protracted and prolonged campaigning in very harsh conditions.<<<

I think using Barbarossa as an example is stretching the facts a little. Bear in mind at this time the German Army was unstoppable, they wanted to go on when they were stopped for R & R. I would like to see some real numbers, but to make assumptions that you make of 50/50 is not really acceptable. I do not think they had anything like these numbers, but I could be wrong. Also, altho they had a long supply line, they had good replacements and material, not the old men and boys from the late war years.

Another contentious point is your last sentence. I am sure most members would not really call the initial part of Barbarossa a "protracted and prolonged campaign in very harsh conditions", look at the documentaries of smiling marching Germans. Indeed, if they had so much success in a CG on the ladder they would be overjoyed, I do not think this is a valid example.

However, overall, I do think you have a point and you are aware of my thoughts thru the emails from Glenn.