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Bolt out of the Blue 4.4
09-23-2009, 03:39 AM,
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4
tazaaron Wrote:but right now the WGermans have B,C or D depending on reserve status.

I think that is eminently correct. West germany maintained 15 month conscription with the option of retaining a person up to 3 months longer if he was occupying a key position in a unit and no replacement was immediately at hand. Belgium, France and Holland was 12 months afaik. Denmark was between 8-12 months depending on arm of service. Norway was also 12 months. Austria maintained 6 months of (inadequate) concription.

It was (and is) generally accepted that in order to train a battalion sized unit adequately (that is to the equivalent of a "C" in the game) you need at least one year of intensive training (that means doing military training and exercise, not mowing fields, plucking potatoes or standing around on the parade square). Anything above 12 months spent effectively doing military stuff is gravy and means the unit might get even better ("B" quality in other words)

So it basically looks alright. Freshly trained conscripted units are B or C or D depending on service lenght and quality of service (if the unit spends most of its conscription time doing non-military stuff due to a lack of funding it might even be a "D" as the case seems to be with some of the Czech, Polish, even though their conscripts have had a long service period of over 12 months on paper). As units then begin to "cycle" through the reserve categories they lose quality. How fast they lose it is of course dependent on how often and how long the unit and/or its individual personnel is put through refresher training.
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Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-21-2009, 12:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-21-2009, 04:55 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 07-21-2009, 09:12 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-21-2009, 09:48 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-21-2009, 10:47 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 12:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-22-2009, 12:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Mike Bowen - 07-21-2009, 10:39 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 07-21-2009, 11:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-21-2009, 11:32 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-22-2009, 04:40 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 04:50 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Zemke - 08-02-2009, 08:04 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-22-2009, 05:00 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 07-22-2009, 06:19 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 06:28 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-22-2009, 08:31 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-23-2009, 03:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-23-2009, 04:47 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-23-2009, 04:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by westkent5097 - 07-24-2009, 07:31 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by PincerDK - 07-24-2009, 08:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-24-2009, 03:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-24-2009, 05:42 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-24-2009, 05:49 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-25-2009, 09:04 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-26-2009, 01:20 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-29-2009, 02:40 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-29-2009, 03:11 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-29-2009, 03:20 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-29-2009, 04:09 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-29-2009, 04:47 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-01-2009, 04:57 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-04-2009, 03:26 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-13-2009, 04:13 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Epoletov [SPR]. - 08-13-2009, 04:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-13-2009, 05:05 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by PincerDK - 08-13-2009, 07:05 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-13-2009, 03:14 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-13-2009, 03:31 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 08-14-2009, 12:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Scar - 08-14-2009, 03:31 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-16-2009, 05:26 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-19-2009, 04:52 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 08-20-2009, 07:59 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 08-21-2009, 01:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-21-2009, 01:36 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 08-21-2009, 02:09 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 08-21-2009, 02:30 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-21-2009, 03:12 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-23-2009, 07:11 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-23-2009, 09:41 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-25-2009, 01:37 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-25-2009, 07:12 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-25-2009, 05:22 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 08-25-2009, 11:42 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 08-26-2009, 12:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-26-2009, 03:26 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 08-26-2009, 05:20 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-26-2009, 07:49 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-26-2009, 03:37 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-26-2009, 03:54 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-27-2009, 03:52 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-27-2009, 07:11 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Mike Bowen - 08-27-2009, 10:52 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-28-2009, 02:46 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Spooky - 08-28-2009, 06:45 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by GUIGUITZA - 08-29-2009, 04:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-29-2009, 05:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by GUIGUITZA - 08-29-2009, 06:14 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-29-2009, 06:34 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 09-05-2009, 03:09 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-05-2009, 02:09 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-07-2009, 07:52 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-09-2009, 04:24 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-10-2009, 01:09 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-10-2009, 03:10 PM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-11-2009, 10:29 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-11-2009, 04:38 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-11-2009, 04:43 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-11-2009, 04:54 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-13-2009, 02:08 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-12-2009, 12:37 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 09-13-2009, 11:34 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-16-2009, 05:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-17-2009, 04:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-18-2009, 03:57 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-18-2009, 04:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 09-18-2009, 05:39 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-18-2009, 04:34 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-18-2009, 04:45 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-18-2009, 05:10 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-18-2009, 05:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-19-2009, 05:15 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-22-2009, 05:16 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-23-2009, 03:39 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 09-24-2009, 07:39 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-22-2009, 04:49 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-23-2009, 04:54 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 09-24-2009, 09:09 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-24-2009, 07:34 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-24-2009, 09:44 PM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 09-25-2009, 12:01 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-25-2009, 03:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-25-2009, 04:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 09-25-2009, 05:09 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 10-03-2009, 08:25 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-04-2009, 02:19 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 10-04-2009, 04:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-04-2009, 06:04 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 10-14-2009, 12:24 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-14-2009, 01:13 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 10-14-2009, 01:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-14-2009, 05:43 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-14-2009, 06:22 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 10-14-2009, 01:20 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-15-2009, 01:15 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-16-2009, 04:45 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-16-2009, 05:47 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 10-28-2009, 08:19 PM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 05:29 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 10-31-2009, 09:15 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 09:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 10:23 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Taffy6 - 10-31-2009, 12:15 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 01:17 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 10-31-2009, 05:25 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 06:12 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 10-31-2009, 10:20 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-01-2009, 03:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 11-01-2009, 07:50 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Elxaime - 11-08-2009, 02:59 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 11-08-2009, 07:25 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-09-2009, 05:21 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-09-2009, 08:23 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-09-2009, 11:53 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Elxaime - 11-13-2009, 08:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-13-2009, 10:12 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-14-2009, 06:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-14-2009, 10:32 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 11-15-2009, 07:56 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-16-2009, 04:30 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 11-16-2009, 04:51 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Taffy6 - 11-17-2009, 03:39 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 11-17-2009, 04:02 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-17-2009, 04:46 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 11-17-2009, 05:35 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-17-2009, 04:44 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-17-2009, 05:19 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-20-2009, 03:45 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-20-2009, 08:22 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-18-2009, 02:18 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-20-2009, 08:34 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 12-02-2009, 04:35 AM
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