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Bolt out of the Blue 4.4
10-16-2009, 05:47 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-31-2009, 09:52 AM by Aaron.)
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4
Almost all my values can swing either way, so the 45 or 42 doesn't make a difference to me because for me their both correct and it was my call to take the higher of the 2. I agree the AT-3 (400mm) was crap and most BMP-1s still used it by the end of the 80s that wernt upgraded to P standard, the AT-3C(520mm) was better but still wasnt up to even the original TOW (600mm) numbers and for the most part only was used on the BRDMs and by 89 was in second line Soviet units and WP minors because of money issues. Even the AT-5(650mm) and AT-6 didnt reach the numbers from ITOW (800mm), it wasnt intill the early 90s that the Russians caught up to Western standards starting with the AT-5B(925mm). The 45 or 42 is mostly based on firing platform and then the last little bit on the missile itself. A long story short the 42 is good for me. Below is the ATGM study thats ongoing with what the values will most likely end up being after the next update, a note their will be a couple additional vehicle variants added to the game like the BMP-1P and 2 different ITV variants, most of the other will be depending on what missile they had, ITOW or TOW2 for example.

Aaron

GM PM 18 5 27 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 12 4 15 0 ITOW HMMWV
GM PM 18 5 30 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 12 4 15 0 TOW2 HMMWV
GM PM 9 4 21 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 16 0 9P122 (AT-3)
GM PM 9 4 24 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 16 0 9P133 (AT-3C)
GM PM 9 4 29 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 16 0 9P148 (AT-5)
GM PM 12 4 33 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 16 T VAB (HOT2)
GM TRK 16 5 33 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 17 4 16 T FV102-Striker
GM MOT 8 4 27 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 12 4 14 0 ITOW Jeep
GM MOT 8 4 30 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 12 4 14 0 TOW2 Jeep
GM TRK 16 4 33 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 16 4 15 T YPR-765 PRAT (TOW2)
GM TRK 12 5 30 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 19 4 14 T Jaguar 2 (TOW2)
GM TRK 12 5 27 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 19 4 14 0 Jaguar 1 (HOT)
GM TRK 12 4 27 1 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 14 0 M113A1-B-MIL (MILAN2)
GM PM 12 4 27 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 15 0 BRM (ITOW)
GM PM 18 4 27 1 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 15 0 BRM (Milan2)
GM TRK 12 5 30 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 14 0 M901-ITOW
GM TRK 12 5 33 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 14 T M901A1-TOW2
GM TRK 16 4 30 1 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 17 4 16 0 FV103-Spartan (MCT)
GM TRK 18 5 26 2 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 14 4 14 0 BTR-RD

*****Note**** before you ask the question the AT-5 has a base rating of 26 but all vehicles with 5+ ready to fire missiles got a +3 bonus, so thats where the 3 point jump comes in for the BRDM variants. -3 on Platforms that only had 1 ready to fire missile.

T--- in the last value means Thermal, ? im still looking


BTR60/70/80------HA 18 +0
BMP-1------------HA 21 -2
BMP-1P-----------HA 26 +3
BMP-2------------HA 26 +0
BMD-1------------HA 21 -2
BMD-1P-----------HA 26 +3
BMD-2------------HA 26 +0
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Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-21-2009, 12:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-21-2009, 04:55 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 07-21-2009, 09:12 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-21-2009, 09:48 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-21-2009, 10:47 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 12:37 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-22-2009, 12:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Mike Bowen - 07-21-2009, 10:39 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 07-21-2009, 11:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-21-2009, 11:32 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-22-2009, 04:40 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-22-2009, 05:00 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 06:28 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-22-2009, 08:31 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-23-2009, 03:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-23-2009, 04:47 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-23-2009, 04:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by westkent5097 - 07-24-2009, 07:31 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by PincerDK - 07-24-2009, 08:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-24-2009, 03:06 PM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-24-2009, 05:49 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-25-2009, 09:04 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-26-2009, 01:20 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-29-2009, 02:40 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-16-2009, 05:26 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-19-2009, 04:52 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 08-21-2009, 01:25 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-21-2009, 01:36 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-25-2009, 01:37 PM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Mike Bowen - 08-27-2009, 10:52 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-28-2009, 02:46 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by GUIGUITZA - 08-29-2009, 04:18 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by GUIGUITZA - 08-29-2009, 06:14 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 10-14-2009, 12:24 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-14-2009, 05:43 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 05:29 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 10-31-2009, 10:20 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-01-2009, 03:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 11-01-2009, 07:50 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-09-2009, 11:53 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Taffy6 - 11-17-2009, 03:39 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 11-17-2009, 04:02 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-17-2009, 04:46 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 11-17-2009, 05:35 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-17-2009, 04:44 AM
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