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Bolt out of the Blue 4.4
11-13-2009, 10:12 AM,
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4
Elxaime Wrote:FYI, just saw a book review on a new Osprey Duel series booklet: M1Abrams v. T-72 Ural. According to the review, the author does an in-depth analysis not only of how the two matched up during Desert Storm 1991 but how things might have played out if the Warsaw Pact and NATO had clashed.

http://www.wargamer.com/article/2797/m1-...-t-72-ural

Not having read the book, I would take a guess that he concludes:

- Soviet Army superior training and maintenance would have made the T-72 more deadly in Soviet hands than Iraqi

- the Iraqi T-72 was an export model without the latest tech

- a war in Central Europe's more built-up, mountainous and forested terrain would have lessened the M1Abrams ranged advantage which was so clear on the plains of Kuwait/Iraq

Havnt read the book but everything you just mentioned is correct, not so sure about superior training but definitely alot better than the Iraqis and as far as maintenance well we will just leave it at that.

Aaron
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Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-21-2009, 12:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-21-2009, 04:55 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 07-21-2009, 09:12 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-21-2009, 09:48 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-21-2009, 10:47 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 12:37 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Mike Bowen - 07-21-2009, 10:39 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Midge - 07-21-2009, 11:06 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 07-21-2009, 11:32 PM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-22-2009, 06:28 PM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-23-2009, 03:18 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 07-23-2009, 04:47 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-23-2009, 04:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by westkent5097 - 07-24-2009, 07:31 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by PincerDK - 07-24-2009, 08:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 07-24-2009, 03:06 PM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 08-25-2009, 01:37 PM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-18-2009, 04:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 09-18-2009, 05:39 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Ostland [SPR] - 09-18-2009, 04:34 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 09-18-2009, 04:45 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-16-2009, 05:47 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 05:29 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 09:25 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Taffy6 - 10-31-2009, 12:15 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 01:17 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 10-31-2009, 05:25 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 10-31-2009, 06:12 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 10-31-2009, 10:20 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-01-2009, 03:56 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Hans Boersma - 11-01-2009, 07:50 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Elxaime - 11-08-2009, 02:59 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Indragnir - 11-08-2009, 07:25 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-09-2009, 05:21 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-09-2009, 08:23 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-09-2009, 11:53 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Elxaime - 11-13-2009, 08:28 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-13-2009, 10:12 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-14-2009, 06:33 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-14-2009, 10:32 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by P.Ako - 11-15-2009, 07:56 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-16-2009, 04:30 AM
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RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Taffy6 - 11-17-2009, 03:39 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 11-17-2009, 04:02 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-17-2009, 04:46 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by James Ward - 11-17-2009, 05:35 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-17-2009, 04:44 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-17-2009, 05:19 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-20-2009, 03:45 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by JDR Dragoon - 11-20-2009, 08:22 AM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-18-2009, 02:18 PM
RE: Bolt out of the Blue 4.4 - by Aaron - 11-20-2009, 08:34 AM
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