Disabled Armor-Indirect by the Map-and more about Gardening Later

[dawags]

"Here's a little experiment you can do. Create a sceanrio. Open ground nothing fancy. Put some PZIV's on it. Give the Allies some off board artillery say 16inch naval guns and 81mm mortars. Fire the naval guns at one PZIVH platoon and the 81mm mortars at the other.

You will find the 16 inch naval guns will give you more results than the 81mm mortars."-Hawk

Thanks Hawk...
However, I agree fully with your assessment here. 16 inch Naval guns are highly likely to achieve a result on the combats results table on a PzIV. This wasn't my point, but I assume you knew that. The point has always been, the disable likelihood.

I have one for you...a little experiment. Create a scenario. Open ground nothing fancy. Put some King Tigers on it. Make sure you have selected indirect by map. Drop 81mm's, and 155's on it. You will have to make sure the units aren't spotted, so many efforts will need to be made as the indirect will scatter. You will find that the 81mm and the 155mm "disable" at a similar rate, when they hit. I don't see this as accurate, and of course you don't have to agree, but you also knew this.

Lastly...
I do not need you to quote rules of engagement to me relative to my posts. I don't have a problem with civility. I don't question your intelligence at all, in fact, you strike me as someone who communicates very well and with a purpose. I see three likely reasons why you have seen the need to do this...

1) You don't actually see that your posts taking the attitude of I'm right, you are wrong, and misinformed, here let me educate you are at their root very patronizing. In general, most people don't like to be patronized, especially so when they don't actually recognize it for such. I am new here, but I would be willing to bet that you engender some real nasty response at times from a few people. If you don't realize this, you should really take a look. It will improve your dialogue with folks.

2) You have many friends amongst the admins. here, so that you feel that others need to be accountable to rules that you yourself don't have to be. Again, I am new here, I don't fully know all the relationships. I was recommended by people I respect to weigh-in on this debate. I was told people who know, and who have influence on the game will listen. I will take that at face value, and hope I have been heard. However, if these folks don't hold you accountable for your posts, I would suggest they evaluate their own rules. There are many methods to being impolite over and above simple name calling, and nastiness. I enjoy the game, and had hoped to enjoy some dialogue regarding same. Again, I am somewhat new here, but I said that already.

3) You actually know full well what you are doing, and purposefully are actually looking for a reaction from folks. I am not a psychologist (nor do I play one on TV), but a lifetime of training as a behaviorist has served me well in this regard. Did I say earlier?, I am new here, and have very few posts. I am not looking for a fight, or to be "banned". Based on your responses, and your approach, I would be willing to bet that you have gotten more than one poster "banned" with your interactions. If this is the case...I am dying to know...What is your current count? You are pretty good at this. :bow:

dawags
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