Mud Movement penalties seem low

[Bacillus98]

So far in the thread you have several opinions. That's fine, as I wanted to encourage open dialogue. I wanted to respond to several folks in the thread.

To Nick: I agree that is not as easy as simply taking a division movement distance in km and dividing it by a designated time amount. I was only doing this to get an average idea on the limits imposed on units because of mud.


To Midge: You're a funny guy :) You should try the ATV Mud Mania race. Lot of women there too...



To Ricky: I am in agreement about syncing the movement rate of infantry and motorized/tracked units. Your suggestion seems sound. And yes, a scenario shouldn't be all mud if it can help it. I count maybe 2 scenarios in M41 that are strictly mud. And in both the Germans still move much too rapidly and are able to surround the Soviets with relative ease.

To VM: How far would a mechanized/motorized unit move in mud in your alts if you applied it to the M41 game?

To Glenn: I understand there is a fine balance between realism, playability, and fun. Have you recently played the "Tula Little, Tula Late scenario"? It is overwhelmingly pro Axis. Just look at the Ladder record and count the Axis wins vs. the Allies. One of the biggest reason why the Germans dominate is because of unrealistic mobility they have in the mud which is used to surround Russian units and destroy them systematically. Historically the Germans were mainly confined to the Tula highway road since it had the best conditions for rapid movement.