Scoring

[Walrus]

Interesting discussion.

Please don't make any changes until there has been a good chance for everyone to contribute.

Imp...I don't see any other threads or discussion re. the points / results systems being 'wrong'...why the sudden desire to change it.
As I see it, this is only based on your opinion so far, not a general feeling in the Forum that something needs changing.

Those of us that have been here for a few years now will remember the original scoring system.
It was based on a points ratio (from the game end result page).
This old system served well enough, but handed out many draws.
Because of this, Weasel created a spread sheet that included Flags Captured as a variable.
This became the 'alternate' score system and was an option if you wanted to use it.
Over a couple of years (IIRC) Weasels system became the default as it was better in the collective opinion of the Forum.

Lately Kiwi added a few more variable to the spreadsheet...and that was the latest change.

I vote for no change at all to the spread sheet as it stands.
If you want to develop a new score system, then do that, and it can be used as an alternate system over time.
Players can decide by using both systems which one suits best, and eventually one will become dominant.

There are so many ways of playing a PBEM...not just ME vs Ass / Adv etc.
It is up to the players how they want to score a battle...no-one actually cares how the end result for the ladder is arrived at, just as long as both players agree with the posted result.
It is possible to just have an agreement on a result without referencing Weasel's system at all.

Also...it is easy to change the levels of importance of Flags by just changing their point value on the map, and or using less of them. There does not have to be 21 used.
BTW...never put them all at zero points as the game tends to finish early.
A minimum value of 5 is important if you want to play out all the turns.

Weasel's system does not work well, especially for smaller battles, if the flags have a large value attached to them.
This is because the System gives value for the actual Flags held, and then also for the points they were worth...a sort of double whammy.
This therefore is not the best system to use for scoring a Pre-made scenario (from the SP game itself) as these are created expecting to be played against the AI and scored by the in-game system.

Currently I am playing a bunch of these scenarios against Czerpak and we either negotiate a result or use the in game result as the scenarios are not good to be scored by Weasel's system.


There are many other points to be considered...so therefore take your time there bro :-) Like I say, there doesn't seem to be a general feeling on the forum that there needs to be a change.
Also...I think you have lost sight of the fact that you can create a result for the ladder by any means that both player deem fair.
It is good to keep things simple and flexible...and your ideas so far do not seem to be following that path.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Cheers
Walrus